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Post by Liszt » Sun Apr 13, 2008 11:18 am

another Tom Waits line goes like this

boney's high on china white, shorty found a punk, don't you know there ain't no devil, there's just god when he's drunk, well this stuff will probably kill you, let's do another line, what you say you meet me down on heartattack and vine.

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Post by RonPizzle » Sun Apr 13, 2008 8:36 pm

Could if be that this very elementary awareness that we are trying to convey to people is the same one that politicians now use? ie: an Obama speech. Nobody wants to hear the facts, but dumbing it down to a level that people can hang on to isn't the end all be all solution. Although it does seem to be the most logical solution for our predicament.
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Post by NoApartheid » Sun Apr 13, 2008 9:52 pm

But Obama is still a Zionist. I'm just saying that even if he is less of a Zionist because of more balanced advisors, that the Zionist neocons around him will no less demand Hamas be killed or expelled if it does not agree to a cease fire.

They will no less allow the occupation to continue with no questions asked, although they will give the subject more coverage and most of the war profiteers will get prosecuted.

But it will still be the same spin of Israel is always right. No PRESIDENT, no CHANCELLOR in world history has stood up to the Israel state besides Harry Truman and Jimmy Carter. And both of them, one of whom is dead, can never be elected again.

So like I said dumb it down or not the only way the investigation on 9-11 moves forward is through the U.N. community & that will break the dam politicians won't move from their usual position regarding the lobbies.

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Post by RonPizzle » Mon Apr 14, 2008 12:15 am

NoApartheid wrote:But Obama is still a Zionist. I'm just saying that even if he is less of a Zionist because of more balanced advisors, that the Zionist neocons around him will no less demand Hamas be killed or expelled if it does not agree to a cease fire.

They will no less allow the occupation to continue with no questions asked, although they will give the subject more coverage and most of the war profiteers will get prosecuted.

But it will still be the same spin of Israel is always right. No PRESIDENT, no CHANCELLOR in world history has stood up to the Israel state besides Harry Truman and Jimmy Carter. And both of them, one of whom is dead, can never be elected again.

So like I said dumb it down or not the only way the investigation on 9-11 moves forward is through the U.N. community & that will break the dam politicians won't move from their usual position regarding the lobbies.

I was making more of a broader observation on why politicians speak like they do and comparing it to the fact that JMB was talking about dumbing down the message for the common man, but yeah you have a point as well.
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Post by Ed » Mon Apr 14, 2008 6:08 am

Zeitgeist movie itself is not really a 9/11 truth film. it's more about myth and deception in a broad sense. the maker of the film states himself that he doesn't expect people to just accept the video as fact, but that it should encourage people to start looking for answers themselves. to be honest, if you were unaware, and think logically, you will see this film and realise that there is a lot of truth in it.

Ok whilst people here know that there are many faults with Zeitgeist factually, I'm sure it has given a lot of people a wake up call, many of whom might never really though about this stuff before watching it.
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Post by jfc » Mon Apr 14, 2008 8:57 pm

If we were to read these posts from the very first post, we could avoid going round and round and round and round and round...etc, etc, etc...
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