Atta and Abramoff

Post by **Liszt** » Mon Dec 31, 2007 11:04 am

I've heard from few people that Atta was "entertained" by Mad Jack on board his yacht prior to 911.

However, I cannot find a good source for this. Anyone have any ideas? The more mainstream the source, the better.

Post by **Bender** » Mon Dec 31, 2007 11:42 am

I've read about it in an article years ago. Have to search for it to find it again. You could try youtube, there might be some info about your issue there. Try searching for something like "true identity mohammed atta" or something. I think the way I found it was true research about their flightschool (a dutchman who later on revised his story about atta not knowing a word of german), atta being seen in a stripclub (where he forgot his koran) and how he made an impression somehwere (i forgot but the people who noticed his behaviour didn't see him as a devoted muslim). Fom there I went searching and found an article about his connection to abramof who kept popping up during my search by the way.

All the above may or may not be the truth but it is what I found on my search.

I know it's not much but you can start with looking around on the internet as I did.

Post by **Liszt** » Mon Dec 31, 2007 11:48 am

arowak_carib wrote:

I know it's not much but you can start with looking around on the internet as I did.

cheeky! I did that - went through 30 or 40 sites, but they were all "heresay". Most just linked back to madcow news, which is not an original source.

Anyway, here is one - from youtube (thanks for that suggestion) but it is, again, from mad cow.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BJovIhNrmE

Post by **Bender** » Mon Dec 31, 2007 1:06 pm

Sorry Liszt, didn't mean to be cheeky.

Mad cow, huh. That's odd because I'm pretty damn sure these were newspaper articles and video's pointing out discrepancies.

You know what, years ago I used google to find stuff. It was pretty good. Now I just know the results are manipulated badly lately.

I'm so intrigued I will dive in this again. You'll here from me.

EDIT: Wow, things have been cleaned up thoroughly. Can't find a thing. Nothing. And WTF is this mad cow prod?! Keeps coming up.

EDIT: Started to search with different parameters still lots of mishits..hmm.

Post by **Liszt** » Mon Dec 31, 2007 1:30 pm

arowak_carib wrote:Sorry Liszt, didn't mean to be cheeky.

Mad cow, huh. That's odd because I'm pretty damn sure these were newspaper articles and video's pointing out discrepancies.

You know what, years ago I used google to find stuff. It was pretty good. Now I just know the results are manipulated badly lately.

I'm so intrigued I will dive in this again. You'll here from me.

EDIT: Wow, things have been cleaned up thoroughly. Can't find a thing. Nothing. And WTF is this mad cow prod?! Keeps coming up.

EDIT: Started to search with different parameters still lots of mishits..hmm.

completely agree about google. It is officially rubbish now. I'm looking for a new search engine.

Anyway, what does this mean? Has it been censored while nobody was looking?

Post by **black_action_hero** » Mon Dec 31, 2007 2:08 pm

this may help
http://simbaud.blogspot.com/2005/08/lots-odots.html

or

http://www.casinowatch.org/terrorists/t ... sinos.html

"
SunCruz Casinos turns over documents in terrorist probe
TAMPA, Fla. - SunCruz Casinos has turned over photographs and other documents to FBI investigators after employees said they recognized some of the men suspected in the terrorist attacks as customers.
Michael Hlavsa, chairman of the gambling cruise company, said Wednesday two or three men linked to the Sept. 11 hijackings may have been customers on a ship that sailed from Madeira Beach on Florida's gulf coast.
9/26/01 By VICKIE CHACHERE Associated Press Writer and Florida Times-Union"
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SunCruz was then owned by Abramoff

Post by **Liszt** » Mon Dec 31, 2007 2:45 pm

thanks! Look at the list of sources - AP, Washington Post and loads of others. All down the memory hole (well, nearly)

Post by **black_action_hero** » Mon Dec 31, 2007 2:58 pm

only took about 5 minutes to find that

i must have a gift

Post by **Liszt** » Mon Dec 31, 2007 6:36 pm

black_action_hero wrote:only took about 5 minutes to find that
i must have a gift

well, just got back from a street party. Excellent fireworks.

Even so...what search engine did you use?

Post by **Liszt** » Mon Dec 31, 2007 7:18 pm

Thanks Tim

This is really important - and get relegated to fuckknowswhat most of the time.