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Post by Rio » Sat Oct 27, 2007 10:19 pm

Colby wrote:
Not to rehash the past, but it seems that folks have different alliances even within the truth movement, is there a good background primer on this or can someone sum up just what is going on here? It would be good to know what the personal dynamics are here but not a good use of time to go back and read all of the articles that led up to this.
Seriously, I was going to ask this myself. I'm relatively new to this and it all seems so silly to me so maybe I'd understand it better with some background.

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Post by Colby » Sun Oct 28, 2007 1:22 am

Okay so I've been back-reading Eric's shit for about 3 hours now. I have to say that he is thorough, but very suspicious. This is the first I've heard of these dudes (I knew a little about Bolynn, but not about all the disappearance drama), not that I broaden my sources a whole lot, but I never really got caught up with our own brand of talking heads, or in this case, "voices on the phone," :P so I can't say a whole lot about these guys. The question I guess is, how can we conduct ourselves properly in this collective investigation and revolution if we cannot trust eachother? If we're supposed to suspect everyone, what becomes our collective foundation? How can we conduct a "tru"th movement without "tru"st?

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Post by p2p » Sun Oct 28, 2007 1:23 am

Sensi Dave wrote:Bollyn released those pictures after DBS told the story about Bollyn getting drunk with his wife & doing a Nazi salute. Sounds like that might not have been true from that phone call. The pictures Bollyn put up proved elements of Daryl's version of the story untrue & that's why he did so I believe. & possibly for reasons of spite as well.
Thanks. Why did DBS say this about Bollyn ?
Where did Bollyn post the pictures of DBS ?

What is the "crucial 9-11 discovery" Bollyn announced
but wants people to pay for learning about ?
http://bollyn.com/index/
http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/fo ... ead=111405
Rio wrote:
Colby wrote:Not to rehash the past, but it seems that folks have different alliances even within the truth movement, is there a good background primer on this or can someone sum up just what is going on here? It would be good to know what the personal dynamics are here but not a good use of time to go back and read all of the articles that led up to this.
Seriously, I was going to ask this myself. I'm relatively new to this and it all seems so silly to me so maybe I'd understand it better with some background.
The background is tactics of deception described in the protocols of zion
and practiced by secret services/societies (SS) and conspiracies like Cointelpro.
Most of the prominent people in the opposition are paid for by the banksters,
many low level actors indirectly, often people with MPD and alcoholism from MkUltra like abuse.
There is an Arte documentary about how the CIA financed leading socialist artists
in Europe since the war for example. Money flows. Prostitution abounds.

The reason they use "radio" a lot now is so you loose even more time
and tracking of inconsistencies becomes more difficult.
Of course sound also allows for low frequency subliminals.

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Post by Colby » Sun Oct 28, 2007 2:48 am

Okay, after doing more research into this. Here are my conclusions:

1.

a. Eric Hufschmid is good on a lot of things, but his attitude is not helpful. He is too openly paranoid without real evidence. He falls on the associative and corraboration/correlation fallacy way too often. Sure, it's okay to be suspicious of other people's intents, but he hurts himself by expressing it so much.

b. Hufschmid doesn't believe this, but substitutes Jew for Zionist too often. See his whole section on "Crypto Jews." He says that being a Jew isn't bad, but implicates half of dozen people of being Crypto Jews, when he meant Zionist. That sort of slip-up can errode credibility.

2. Smith is too tempermental to be a leader in this movement. He is also not self-confident enough to be trusted as a reliable source of information.

3. Bollyn seems like the most "balanced" guy out of these three. The right issues with the right attitude. Righteous, but not egotistical.

4. The final approach seems to favor the selection of individual ideas, not individuals. I think that all anti-neo-cons and anti-Zionists must remember to listen and take in all ideas, but to make sure they receive equal scrutiny. Most of these people are repeating the same theories based on the same evidence- this is what we share. Take the ideas we like and propagate them and leave the garbage, disinformation, and everything else behind. Operate with disclosure, e.g. we understand that Alex Jones underreports or suppresses the Zionist role, but that doesn't warrant throwing out all of his information or his work, just make a footnote.


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Post by revol.ution » Sun Oct 28, 2007 7:35 am

more pressing matters than to deal with an idiot that treats his partner that way. Thats what I think.

As far as in-fighting, fuck them, they make truth movement people look rediculous. Its just bad.

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Post by ledskof » Mon Oct 29, 2007 8:51 am

The reason I don't listen to Eric Hufschmid is because of this term he created --> "Crypto Jews"

He is a trap waiting to be stepped in. And way too many people stepped in it. Even if he meant it with pure intention, which I sincerely doubt, it is too straight down a path of blinding hate.

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Post by Ry » Mon Oct 29, 2007 9:21 am

None of us think DBS is an agent. He is freaking out over nothing. My picture is all over the web and I was exposing Zionists before this guy even knew what one was. DBS with Mat spread rumors on the web that I was pedophile, worked for the Dark Minions, and even a crypto Jew :lol: They did any and everything they could to assault my character based on nothing too. They are just egomaniacs. Listen to DBS telling Eric to do anything to attack Boyllon including going after his son. That is fucking low. When Christopher was arrested no one would help him because of his association to these two clowns. And he figured that out. The reason they were mad at me was because I kicked Mat of of this forum when he kept supporting David Icke and his lizard nonsense as well as shit about a fake moon landing and the denial of "macro" evolution which is a made up term because all evolution is micro by definition. I didn't need that shit on my forum. I look at Matt's forum and saw that he had been bashing on me for months for no reason at all before I he schooled him on the David Icke bullshit. And when people went to his forum to correct him he just banned everybody. The only person I banned o here was him. But DBS had him on his show and the precede to talk about me, and then just outright lie about me. When I threatened to sue them DBS took down the two interviews where Mat was on the only two files out of about 1100 that he ever removed. DBS read my 911 theory and apologized on his site yet continued to say I didn't go far enough and made claims that were again outright false because all the crap he said was just wrong. For example saying I didn't talk about Rothchilds when I had the principle video exposing them up as a sticky And I practically introduced Money Masters to the alternative web considering I have had it since 1997. DBS is his own greatest fan and the mud slinging they do it pointless. It is one thing to jump on an easy target like Alex Jones who believes in weather control and mine warping video games masonic lure and all that crap. But it is another to attack an anti-zionist and say the sickest things you could about a person you didn't even know because you though they were "stealing your headlines". For the record I had my entire 911 theory up 2 years before DBS even had a fucking show. And I had never even heard of him until WRH linked to a USS Liberty Interview with Jim Ennis. Which I also linked to. Then I listened to about 5 earlier show that is about all their were and I got really sick of all the crypto Jews crap. It was just Jew this and Jew that. I started to detect a Cryptic Anti-Semite. He is not an agent, but he sure is discrediting anyway. Oh and Mat the guest he had on also drinks his own pee and linked to white separatist and supremacist sites. I think that is why DBS finally dropped him because I don't believe the guy is a racist. I do think he is obsessed with Judaism and very lacking in seeing how religion in general is fucked up with Christians doin around 90% of the killing. Not Jews.
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Post by Liszt » Mon Oct 29, 2007 9:55 am

good rant! I didn´t know madthumbs drank his own urine. What does he eat?

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Post by p2p » Mon Oct 29, 2007 10:47 am

Liszt wrote:good rant! I didn´t know madthumbs drank his own urine. What does he eat?
1 Million Indians do that, this broadside is unqualified.

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Post by p2p » Mon Oct 29, 2007 10:50 am

Can someone please remove the Nazi-coloured "anti-WAR" sign accompanying my posts here ?

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