Henry Ford's "The International Jew"

[NOTALOWBROW]

lets just call it the international banking system. leave all jew zionist stuff out because at this point in history the international bankers or money masters are all sorts of diff religion, culture whatever. so lets call them the IBS.

That is a fantastic idea. The good thing with this term (IBS) is that it effectively removes all impulse/reaction for defensiveness, since who among us even knows any of these bankers in question? They are so far removed from the reality of this world. To say that the criminals above all criminals are 'Zionists' is too offensive to too many Christians and Jews who adhere to religious Zionism - and who may not even be able to define the difference between political and religious Zionism for themselves. Their defensives come up and communication ceases. This is why I think as true as it is that many Zionist Christians and Jews have a shady part in this mess, placing the core blame on Zionism isn't helping the cause. It is another distraction from it, because as you say, the bankers in control are from a variety of backgrounds. They worship money and power; this is their common bond. This doesn't mean we shouldn't speak up against Political Zionism, or any other corrupt government or organization. But it's the root that needs extraction, and that root is a group of bankers.

RACISM comes from the obsession of groups and lables. the very idea of race is racist. there is only one race on the plante...human race. we vary in skin color, height, our noses are a little different whatever the fuck.

Amen to THAT!

[Ed]

Yeah the international bankers - there's no point really saying that they are Jews or Zionists. You can say that the Rothschilds have been associated with the Zionist movement in their history, but essentially it's more to do with the fact the international bankers profit after wars and from the downfall of society. That in itself is sick enough, and really Zionism or massive support for Israel or any type of religious or racial bigotry is probably going to benefit them. it's strange because zionists are actively making war happen for genuinely held beliefs but we know there's people who are using zionism as a tool to help create wars for profit. Zionism is involved but.....
The IBS are greedy heartless bastards. period.

[Ry]

lets just call it the international banking system. leave all jew zionist stuff out because at this point in history the international bankers or money masters are all sorts of diff religion, culture whatever. so lets call them the IBS

Yes but banks need conflict to generate debt and that is where religion does come in because nothing causes war and creates conflicts quite like religion. And nothing financed it more either. Plus before the central banks were even made they started by goldsmiths (goldsteins) applying usury and fractional reserve banking. These smae families became the Rothschilds etc. They were Jewish because the Cathoulic church outlawed Usury.

so there is some relavence. And the banks did not create this mess they profitted form it. These wars are by and for Israel because of a racist and pwer maniacal ideology that stems from Zionism.

People really need to kick this blame it on the jew or the black pope or the worst of all the illuminait crap.

Christian/Jewish/Muslism/Atheits all can be Zionist. Most of them are Christians and proportionally there lots of Jews as well. SO WHAT. It doesn't matter. The main thing is we no who these Neocons are who lied about the war and were behind 911 and they should be arrested or killed plain and simple.

[NOTALOWBROW]

Christian/Jewish/Muslism/Atheits all can be Zionist.

Yes, but they cannot all be called International Bankers.

I just think the term "Zionist" doesn't strike at the root because it is too easily misunderstood by those who are unfamiliar. Using language that transcends religion and nationality, like "International Banker," may be more effective for getting the core of the message out there. If our goal is communication, then we should aim to communicate - and avoid confusion whenever possible.

I don't know - I am just sick and bloody tired of skirting around "Zionism" - always having to do backflips to make sure I am not sounding like a bigot. I hate that word for how much confusion and ignorance it sparks. For now on, I'll be more specific and say Israeli or American government or IBS.

Not that anyone is doing anything wrong in criticizing Political Zionism. I am just trying to improve my own communication in this regard. And the term Zionism is a big distraction from speaking the truth - imho.

[Ry]

but you see it is more than the banks. The Zionists that is poeple who believe in Israel killing its neighbors to get more land (which overlaps with the financial interests of the MIC) who actually faked the evidence in Niger against Saddam, wrote the myths about tubes, and chemical weapons etc, ignore the occupation of Palestine inthe media, sent the anthrax to jounalists, and wrote speeches about it, wrote the PNAC documents, lied about WMD, created the false trail to flight schools and blew up buildings on 911, advocate torture, outsed the CIA's agents, created the equity firms which are profiteering from the wars, so on and so on. That was not the "bankers" it was the ZIonists and the bankers are also Zionist.

Also well before American had a Central bank they were invading countries in Central America, Killing American Indians, Invading Mexico, trading slaves from Africa etc. They could do that all very well and be an imperialist state with or without a central bank or federal reserve. The ideoology that allowed for the killing was racist tripe supported by manifest Destiny and Christian suprimicism. Psychotic RELIGION is the main enemy here. Before Zionism it was Manifest Destiny. The trend is always the same. Militant Christian and Jewish fanatics are they people supporting, fighitng in, and financing the wars.

the banks are just an extra layer that allow for really big wars.

I made a list once of 175 interventions and war that America started before the CIA and inbetween the time they had no central bank. So dont be blaming it all on the Rothschilds. It is a cultural problem here. Religious fanaticism is a much beigger problem than many poeple realize.

You can gripe about banks all day and make a movie about it. But you can not without great backlash say ANYTHING bad about religion.