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Post by Iconoclast » Fri Jun 15, 2007 9:24 am

Also, their version of "skepticism" is vigorously attacking anything that opposes the status quo. You'll get more reasoned debate at Stormfront, and that's saying something.
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Post by Iconoclast » Fri Jun 15, 2007 9:32 am

superskip wrote:Randi's own lawyers sought to discredit him ? (i thought Randi was a good guy, debunking various types of charlatans, magicians, religious nuts...)

And that thread where-in you were banned - seems those people contort logic to justify taxes that were never properly legislated into existence, basically saying doesn't matter, gov't needs taxes so you should pay ...



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Randi likes to discredit these people because it's a game to him.
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Post by Liszt » Fri Jun 15, 2007 9:54 am

Iconoclast wrote:
Liszt wrote:I told someone to kill themselves! With a link to Maddox´s comedy webpage.

Here´s my suspension notice

http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=84711
My brother used to be a frequent poster at that site years ago. He, too, implied that someone should have killed themselves.

The admin at the time, Hal (an emo son of a bitch), called the police department of our town, who in turn called our school and then got my brother in trouble.

They're secular humanist leftists, and while they have a "higher than thou" mentality for being "rational free-thinking skeptics," they're the same purveyors of ad hominem attacks and groupthink of the people they claim to loathe.
Earlier this year, someone on the site called social servies on someone, because they gave their chilren "911 was an inside job" t-shirts.

I was careful not to threaten anyone. If some internet stranger told you to kill yourself, would you do it? I´m pretty safe here, but I thought I´d dig up some shit, just in case.

It is a shame, as I like debating people there, even if I´m outnumbered 100 to 1.


Here´s skeptic Ralph Underwager, telling peole that Child Abuse isn´t real
http://www.amazon.com/Return-Furies-Inv ... 0812692721

And here´s Ralph, in an interview with a child pornography magazine
http://www.nostatusquo.com/ACLU/NudistH ... ager2.html

sick bastard

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Post by Int'l man of mystery » Fri Jun 15, 2007 11:35 am

Iconoclast wrote:Randi likes to discredit these people because it's a game to him.
Randi doesn't really discredit them, just like magicians don't really perform magic. It's all an illusion on his part, designed for publicity, propaganda, and money. Let's also not forget, he's a professional. His first book, for example, contained an appalling catalogue of lies and distortions. What he's really doing is slandering them, under the illusion of "discreditting" them.

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Post by Iconoclast » Fri Jun 15, 2007 11:40 am

Intl man of mystery wrote:
Iconoclast wrote:Randi likes to discredit these people because it's a game to him.
Randi doesn't really discredit them, just like magicians don't really perform magic. It's all an illusion on his part, designed for publicity, propaganda, and money. Let's also not forget, he's a professional. His first book, for example, contained an appalling catalogue of lies and distortions. What he's really doing is slandering them, under the illusion of "discreditting" them.
Who does he slander? Geller and Sylvia Browne?
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Post by Int'l man of mystery » Fri Jun 15, 2007 2:19 pm

Iconoclast wrote:Who does he slander? Geller and Sylvia Browne?
I wasn't really thinking of anyone in particular, just in general.

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Post by Iconoclast » Fri Jun 15, 2007 3:13 pm

Intl man of mystery wrote:
Iconoclast wrote:Who does he slander? Geller and Sylvia Browne?
I wasn't really thinking of anyone in particular, just in general.
Any examples, then?
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Post by Int'l man of mystery » Fri Jun 15, 2007 3:26 pm

Iconoclast wrote:Any examples, then?
As you said, Geller and Sylvia are examples, I just wasn't really thinking of anyone in particular when I said it. There's also Byrd, who he accused, along with Geller, of being ringleaders in a criminal blackmail plot to destroy him.

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Intl man of mystery wrote:
Iconoclast wrote:Any examples, then?
As you said, Geller and Sylvia are examples, I just wasn't really thinking of anyone in particular when I said it. There's also Byrd, who he accused, along with Geller, of being ringleaders in a criminal blackmail plot to destroy him.
What accusations has he made that were slanderous? Browne and Geller are fraudsters.
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Post by Int'l man of mystery » Fri Jun 15, 2007 3:59 pm

Iconoclast wrote:What accusations has he made that were slanderous? Browne and Geller are fraudsters.
I just pointed to one example; where he accused Geller and Byrd of being ringleaders in some blackmail scheme against him.

Browne and Geller may be fraudsters, but then again, so is Randi, with his chicanery.

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