HORATIO wrote:expendable youth wrote:mediasyko wrote:Boy Icon, you sound just like those neocon fudamentalist Christians claiming that God is punishing those sinners in New Orleans!
i was talking to my neighbor about this the other day. now hes hardcore christian, pro-life, believes creationism, etc. and he believes that god punished new orleans because most people practiced witchcraft, voodoo, and other spooky unchristian shit. And for the people who did survived they were the ones that were faithful so they lived. i told him he was nuts. he told me it was just the beginning of the ???.
Calling Icococlast a fascist is bad? You just made me laugh. Well run things how ever you like but toleration of nazi type douche bags just puts
better people off having anything to do with you.
Anyway this has now veered far enough off topic,suffice to say,you can't run with tthe hare and run with the hounds.
I have held back much of my views for the sole fact I didn't want Ryan's board to be "affiliated" with "racist scumbags", but seeing as this board is stagnating I don't care anymore. I don't like (keep in mind this isn't in absolute terms, meaning I do not DISLIKE every single member of the following) Jews, Blacks, and probably Gypsies. Do you enjoy my honesty now?
Do you have any Jewish heritage? I'm actually quite curious. I mean this in an ethnic, genetic context, not this whole "if-mother-jew-then-child-jew" nonsense.
I must say, I'm not a nazi, for obvious reasons.
And, much to everyone's delight, I have a higher standard of Freedom of Speech than you do, and probably most people who profess liberalism and "freedom." Just go to revolutionaryleft.com and go to their "opposing views" forum and you'll get a healthy dose of freedom of speech, Isreali style. Tell me, what is freedom when you're sitting in a circle masturbating the communist buddy next to you?
I don't care that this thread has derailed, as any on-topic responses would be much less exciting than what I'm offering
NOw I will say something nice. Icon does care about the environment. (just nothing living in it) apparently we must keep getting stronger and stronger ya know in case the aliens come an invade and we have to fight them.
I care about the environment, just not the low quality humans that take up too much space and resources.
Do you believe that you are the "best" person on this board, in the US, in the world? What exactly makes you so important, or at least so much more important than the rest of us "normals" or "weaklings"? What are you doing with your life, and why is it so much better than anybody elses lives? I'd like to know what you do for a living, and how elite you believe your job is compared to others.
First of all: this really has nothing to do whether I'm right or wrong.
Secondly, what my job is is irrelevant to my value as I'm too young to achieve my current goals. I can assure you that one cannot fault the caterpillar that has not yet become the butterfly
.
What are your criteria for NOT being a "normal" or "weakling"? It sounds like its money to me. So, don't all of these profiteering neoconservatives, with all of their power and wealth, deserve to be the ruling class then, by your own logic? afterall, they wouldnt have all of that money and power if they hadn't the advanced intellect that they do, correct? dumb people get poor, and smart people get rich, right?
I'm not concerned about money, or else I wouldn't be a fan of Kaczynski, now would I? I look for individuals who are aristocratic in character and see reality as how it is, not how they want it to be. I want individuals who do not conform to slave morality. I believe reading Nietzsche might help you gain some insight.
I do not care for economic position at all. For instance, in feudal Europe, some serfs became richer than their lords, yet still retained a serf status.
Neoconservatives are motivated for Israel, greed, sychophancy, and who knows what else. I am not.
im assuming that you arent doing much... you dont have any power. So maybe according to your own logic, you should be wiped out with the rest of us.
Fail.
Name calling is bad. that includes calling some one a fascist. I make it clear where I stand. I am not a racist and I am not religious. I am anti-war etc etc, everyone here knows where I stand. I know how you feel. But avoiding discussion or debate does not change any minds it just keeps them where they are. I have talked to some hardcore racist (national alliance folks) before and had them change their minds and the same can be said for religion. It isn't fun, but i believe in ALL free speech. i also believe in giving reasons for stances. People do and can change.
I don't particularily object to being called a fascist, though I'm not sure I would describe myself as such. But he did name me one out of an emotional outburst.
As a side note, the National Alliance is a joke, and they're currently an American-Israeli owned enterprise.
in their Christian kindness. LOL I almost fell out of my chair. The West controls the land in Africa via private ownership of the land, taken by force from long ago. They cause a food shortage on purpose and export food to Europe and then sell it back to Africa. They don't GIVE them aid, the "AID" is a nice word for Bank loans to pay to buy back their own damn food.
It is the governments and private citizens giving alms to the countries with medicine and food. I'm sure the banks, businesses, and some parts of the government benefit from keeping Africa a low cost workforce. I realize that the medical companies really enjoy getting contracted for medical supplies, but the good people of America allow it and want it to happen. Nobody enjoys seeing people starve to death or die from AIDS, as neither do I, but the bottom factor is altruism and greed is built upon that.
I'm not familiar with the process in depth, but I can't see all these third-world charities being fronts for the (Jewish owned) banks.
The World Bank will give a loan for African nation to build schools and hostpitals BUT not a loan to make manufacturing plants for African products. If they build the schools they go into debt but tehy have no way to pay it with their short money supply. So they lease more land to Western corporations for cheap to pay for the loans for their infastucture.
Interesting, do you have any links of this?
Do they teach you that is school? hell no they make you think Africans are just stupid. They take a paternal attitude to it.
This is ridiculous. We are trained to think of Africans, as a whole, being equally capable (in the proper aspects, I'm not saying they don't have traits they excel over other races) when history and time says otherwise. Have you not noticed that just about every famous African inventor, doctor, leader, etc, has had European admixture? That is, where such inventions are not lied about, as is the case with most "african inventions"...
When is the last time you have heard of an elementary, middle school, high school, or colleges even allowing thoughts of racial inequality?
xtians Churches give billions of dollars to Israel. They collect money from the sheep so that they can build more money collecting houses - churches - so they can spread the word aka gather assets and power.
Of course they do, but the christians do it because they are the Jews' goyim lapdogs. Churches are also responsible for charity for third world countries and the homeless in first world, which was what I meant when I said, "their Christian kindness".
well I agree the things said are outrageous. But I don:t think Iconoclast has said anything Racist. Elitist? yes, but not racist, it is a race free elitism.
Allow me to clarify: I don't use race to judge an individual, but I use it to make educated guesses on behavior.
The US was on the same track to over population with families of 11 kids until we got condoms then it dropped down to 2 kids when we got the pill.
Do you wonder why your ancestors had their homes and environments invaded and destroyed? Because Western Europe was too successful and needed to expand due to overpopulation at home. Western European overpopulation happened before the U.S. was even a country, or even individual colonies.
Either way, with or without birth control, you're going to have more people with less food to go around. Birth control isn't the only factor, feminism has told women that "having children takes away your individuality" in the west and the west does not have the time to raise large families. Agricultural based families DO need large families to help out on the farm, and the third world does not have has rigid yuppie culture as America does.
We don't HAVE to pollute the environment and kill wild life in order to keep the population under control. Corporations do that to make money. People with hanicaps and severe retardation generally don't have children so they won't be adding to the over population.
And how are you going to redistribute food without corporations? The biggest point I'm concerned about is that with the amount of people alive as we have now, we're not going to be able to be autonomous as a planet with large populations requires globalization.
Once oil becomes scare a lot of people are going to starve because they're not going to be able to have food transported to their homes.
We need those 'bad genes' their are direct links between austim and mathmatical genious, writing disorders and wholistic thinkers, and so on.
Motzart would have ben a drunk if not for the invention on the piano. What would he do or be before that? Look at all the computer dorks who would have been nearly worthless nerds only a few decades ago. If you have ugenics, it is simple, you over specialize. And over specialization breeds in weakness. One common people will fall to one common threat. Like Native Americans and small pox. No biological diversity and no immunity.
Exactly. Please read into "positive eugenics" if you may. I reserve negative eugenics for criminals, dysfunctionals, and people who don't show much promise in reaching the Ubermensch.
if you got rid of all the people with poor eye sight you would lose everything they have made, from likes of Ben Frankiln to Einstein. You would also lose the productivity of adults who lose their sight. Bright individuals continue to work contribute and be good people with good minds even after their sight is lost. Glasses or contacts or lazer surgery prolong the goodness.
Yes, of course. I see fixing eyesight problems as a long term goal. Eyesight problems by themselves isn't sufficient to remove one from the gene pool. Once again, please look up positive eugenics.
Secondly what would be the criteria for sterolizing people? Who would decide and how would that not get corupt?
Yet again, positive eugenics: encourage the top individuals to breed over the bottom. But who should decide? Whoever is in charge, it is unescapable. Governments and authorities are inevitable, let us just find those who aren't mealy-mouth sycophants like bush and kerry and find actual leaders who do what should be done, not what is "voted on" "democratically".
And what makes someone worthy, being a good consumer and producing lots of shit? Are not the looters doing exactly the S.Dawinistic thing of survival of the fittest? They are stealing the TVs and the Beer from weaker people. You see human evolution is not about strong individuals. It's about groups of wimps who as a collective are stronger than anyone.
I don't care about the looting done with stores that were to be flooded, provided the equipment was abandoned. But much of the looting is done in areas with no damage. I don't care if someone goes and steals food if it is going to go to waste or if they absolutely need it to survive (they'd be dysfunctional not to) but I don't find going "bananas" (I crack myself up,
) over TVs and Jewelry to be of noble character.
I don't see how someone whose store is looted into is "weaker."
If you just start killing people they are going to fight back and they are going to win, there are too many of them. And if you can kill them you still have to pay for the military force. And what cost more? Feeding people or allowing hunger to get them to steal and pillage business after business until they are shot or arrested?
I'm already aware. If I ever become leader (theoretically), you really shouldn't expect the streets to run red with blood, but parasites, pedophiles (pre-pubescent molestations), sycophants, the insane and incurable (for both their sakes and ours), and traitors to humanity in general will see the Day of the Rope.
"When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him." ~ Jonathan Swift
Thats me with Dianna Buttu of the PLO at a PSM conference. I have actually seen first hand victims of ethnic cleansing. 
