Trayvon Brutally Beat and Broke the Nose of the Neighborhood

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Post by Axe Kick » Fri Mar 30, 2012 12:01 am

Int'l man of mystery wrote:All those defending Zimmerman are hypocrites because they know full well that if it were their kid who got shot dead, they would be singing a very different tune.
Ok, there are two sides to that coin. One could also imagine being the brother or father of George Zimmerman. How would you feel then, at all the people who want to kill him and/or lock him up for what you feel to be self-defense? Did you think of that scenario? So are you being a hypocrite for not supporting Zimmerman now?

The answer is that question is bunk. And that is why family members aren't fit to be a juror in a case like this if it goes to trial, because they are biased either way.

The reality is, we have no personal connection to either family, so we don't have to put ourselves in these hypothetical shoes.

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Post by Ry » Fri Mar 30, 2012 12:41 am

fuck zimmerman. He was playing nosy cop and went after someone he just decided looked like a criminal, who was actually a highschool kid who was visiting his family's house that lived in the area. Zimmerman chased him down and shot him. the fight or not is irrelevent. That he isn't lacerated or have a broken face does not warrent the deperate pleas for help however having a guy with a gun pointed at you does. And so nice of ya to dodge the SUV question I have asked now three times.

go on my youtube and look at all the white pride comments saying nigger lover, mossad agent, Jooo, etc etc there is so much mindless support for this fat pussy. Why because people are so sick of the card...they they play their own race card. :roll:
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Post by Axe Kick » Fri Mar 30, 2012 12:59 am

Ry wrote:fuck zimmerman. He was playing nosy cop and went after someone he just decided looked like a criminal, who was actually a highschool kid who was visiting his family's house that lived in the area. Zimmerman chased him down and shot him. the fight or not is irrelevent. That he isn't lacerated or have a broken face does not warrent the deperate pleas for help however having a guy with a gun pointed at you does. And so nice of ya to dodge the SUV question I have asked now three times.

go on my youtube and look at all the white pride comments saying nigger lover, mossad agent, Jooo, etc etc there is so much mindless support for this fat pussy. Why because people are so sick of the card...they they play their own race card. :roll:
It's youtube, the comments are borderline retarded on every video out there.

What about the SUV? Why did Zimmerman get out? Because he initially was chasing Martin, that's not in question. He says he lost him during the call. Then he appeared to walk back to his SUV and he later encountered Martin again, which says to me Martin wanted to come back and get a piece of Zimmerman. So in my mind, Zimmerman starts off the aggressor, but doesn't catch Martin. Martin comes back to confront Zimmerman and becomes the aggressor and starts the fight. And once the fight started, Martin got the upper hand by striking first with a punch, got on top of Martin, slammed his head against the ground (which I think the video proves he had that wound) and Zimmerman then alleges that Martin went for his gun, which caused him to use the weapon before it could be used on him. With the evidence we have, that's how I think it went down.

Now I'm not Nostradamus here, there's evidence we haven't seen. When the full amount of evidence comes out and if I'm wrong, I'll freely admit it.

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Post by Axe Kick » Fri Mar 30, 2012 1:15 am

http://www.wesh.com/pdf/30793508/detail.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

See page 3 of the report. Officer Tim Smith says Zimmerman was bleeding from the nose and the back of the head, and that his back was wet and covered in grass. He also says Zimmerman was given first-aid at the scene. The only other piece of info is that Zimmerman told the officer that he was screaming for help.

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Post by Phys » Fri Mar 30, 2012 2:56 am

Zimmerman is a Hispanic who, his family says, has been wrongly described as racist.
:lol: Almost every Hispanic I know which is a lot in Texas are racist towards blacks, so the argument that Zimmerman cant be a racist cause he is Hispanic is so stupid.

BTW, the city manager is BLACK and being grilled for mishandling. BLACK protester are angry with him as well.
Martin was visiting his father's fiancee, who lived in the gated community in Sanford, a racially mixed northern suburb of Orlando.
Not casing the place

The law:

776.013 Home protection; use of deadly force; presumption of fear of death or great bodily harm.—
(1) A person is presumed to have held a reasonable fear of imminent peril of death or great bodily harm to himself or herself or another when using defensive force that is intended or likely to cause death or great bodily harm to another if:
(a) The person against whom the defensive force was used was in the process of unlawfully and forcefully entering, or had unlawfully and forcibly entered, a dwelling, residence, or occupied vehicle, or if that person had removed or was attempting to remove another against that person’s will from the dwelling, residence, or occupied vehicle; and
(b) The person who uses defensive force knew or had reason to believe that an unlawful and forcible entry or unlawful and forcible act was occurring or had occurred.


source: http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes/ind ... 6.013.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The police video sure doesn't look like Zimmerman was in the peril of death.

The lead investigator, Chris Serino, was unconvinced by Zimmerman’s assertion that he resorted to deadly force in self-defense.

Finally, WHY HASN'T ZIMMERMAN BEEN ARRESTED?

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Post by Int'l man of mystery » Fri Mar 30, 2012 9:31 am

For all those defending Zimmerman, one thing I have not seen them address, is the fact that the lead investigator wanted Zimmerman arrested.

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Post by Axe Kick » Fri Mar 30, 2012 9:36 am

Phys wrote:
The police video sure doesn't look like Zimmerman was in the peril of death.

The lead investigator, Chris Serino, was unconvinced by Zimmerman’s assertion that he resorted to deadly force in self-defense.

Finally, WHY HASN'T ZIMMERMAN BEEN ARRESTED?
You do realize the police report states that Zimmerman was bleeding from his nose, the back of his head, and his back was wet and had grass stains? That is all consistent with what he said happened. He was also cleaned and given medical attention at the scene, before the video.

So essentially you have to call the police officers at the scene liars, and the witnesses who support Zimmerman's side accessories to murder.

And you can't arrest someone without 'probable cause' that they committed a crime. With the evidence obtained, the people who made the call decided that Zimmerman acted in self-defense and didn't committ murder or manslaughter.

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Post by Phys » Fri Mar 30, 2012 9:47 am

I didn't call anyone a liar. I said, "The police video sure doesn't look like Zimmerman was in the peril of death."

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Post by Axe Kick » Fri Mar 30, 2012 10:32 am

Phys wrote:I didn't call anyone a liar. I said, "The police video sure doesn't look like Zimmerman was in the peril of death."
And that's why I think people are making the police video out to be something more than it is. It wouldn't be admitted as evidence in a trial thats for sure. There were pictures taken of Zimmerman's injuries at the scene, the report states that he had injuries and he was cleaned up at the scene. I am led to believe he had the injuries that we've heard about.

And what injury would show that Martin went after Zimmerman's gun? That's when this truly became a life and death issue (per Zimmerman, of course).

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Post by Ry » Fri Mar 30, 2012 6:27 pm

he did not have a broken nose and again why did the witness see only one person on the ground? The person yelling help was doing it continuously until the last shot.
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