Beautiful women from Lebanon, Egypt, Yemen and Morocco

[Apricot]

I think it is a normal social function to get worth from others. It is not and should not be the only way. Common sense and all good things in moderation.

[Rio]

They still look pretty cute to me

I agree with Tim. I live in a neighborhood with a fairly high population of Muslims and for some reason I find Muslim women attractive even with the head covered.

Nothing wrong with a bit of modesty, but maybe I'm just old fashioned.

[Ry]

Hey nothing wrong with hot anybodies. But there is something wrong with MAKING people have to cover their heads. I like modest women too. And I like not so modest women. Just so long as they have self confidence.

I can tell you why my hot Palestinian friend covered herself when she was in the Middle East. She said she wanted to because if she didn't, she'd get cat called and hit on relentlessly by Muslim men. Said they were pigs, and turned her off the Middle Eastern Men in general. I'll say this too, my X girl Friend went to Italy and before coming back dyed her blond hair brown on purpose to reduce attention to her as the men there were just as much pigs and horny sleaze balls. And that's a Catholic country.

Nothing will make a girl want to cover up faster than being hit on by ugly/rude guys.

[Phys]

I think it is a normal social function to get worth from others. It is not and should not be the only way. Common sense and all good things in moderation.

Its a normal social function to want approval from your peers. I define peers as my friends and my family, people that are in my life. Its also an evolutionary thing not to be attracted to "ugly" cause deformities are sometimes linked to unhealthy offspring. Beauty is normally defined a symmetry. Each country has their own standard of beauty and each person has their own standard of beauty. Most peoples standards for a person they consider having a relationship with are reflection of where they feel they measure up on beauty scale, intelligence scale, emotional scale, and economic scale. If you feel better than or less than your partner, it's really hard for it to work.

Covering your head doesnt make you modest by default. It just means you want that approval from your peers. The person can still be a complete freak. The reverse is also very true.

[EndAllApartheid]

you guys totally missed my point, it obviously went way over your heads.

my point is that beauty should be something that is subjective, however in this day and age, people literally IDOLIZE the female body.
The fact is that every woman is just as beautiful as every other woman. You think the beauty those women show in those photographs are real?? those women ARE covering their faces, just with make up instead of a burka. Plus the photoshop to make their skin flaw less. If you saw any of those women in real life, no make up, put her next to another woman, they are pretty much the same. Its all an illusion. and honestly i dont think women should wear a burka, i think they should just wear a simple hijab etc. Shouldnt that be enough? who said islam orders women to cover their faces?? The women who do cover, do it by choice.
My aunt for example wears a burka, not cuz anyone forces her to, but she likes to, she also has very high selfesteem because ever since she was little everyone would talk about how pretty she was.

And of course lust is natural, its needed for human reproduction. but lust should only exist between man and wife, not with man and random half naked girl walking down the street that guy decides to hit on.

Bullshit. I call absolute "yeah right" that's bullshit on the entire post. Women and men are all idolized the same way as those golden calfs were in Babylon or Egypt or whatever the hell the druids called it back in the day. Only then it was because someone had more gold jewelry than the others or more hair curls or more jade beads.

Who gives a damn? "high self-esteem" -- OLDEST SCAM IN THE BOOK!! "Self-Esteem" is taught in religious indoctrination classes by the elite pedophiles themselves. The Department of Education. Self-Esteem is an oxymoron. Self-Esteem, Self-Worship & Self-Image : None of these things even exist.

Want to to take another bet, lets dissect history. Einstein was a crazy paranoid nut. Yet he was "worshiped" and idolized for being a crazy paranoid nut. He did not know shit about the universe. Yet he was seen as beautiful and unbelievably "popular" as it boosted his "self esteem" to superhero status. Whatever the hell that is. In truth, Einstein got maybe two things accurate out of our whole infinite universe which most humans can't comprehend anyway.....since they don't have the brain cells or capacity to do so.

And he got worshiped for it because he was a poster boy for religious supermacistism. No different than another couple of frauds I can remember.....Yeah they were called Adam and Eve. Boy oh boy they were just the best examples of all weren't they.

Bottom line is heroes killed millions, so called villains were neutral, there is no imaginary tin-man in the clouds who can make "everything" make sense and self-esteem & self-control are all petty made up bullshit like the story about the browned Ox in the Bible. They are all there to feed your minds with trash until you believe it and buy McDonalds food every day after which you will not have any brain cells left by age 40.

Think that must be somehow made up? I invite you to look at the archives of Jewish/Christian history and un-weave all the bullshit fairy tales until you can understand....all of these idiotic verbs and verses are made up crap. There is no redemption in any of them, and its all the same crap repeated 479549 different ways until it has no meaning.
http://www.ziopedia.org

They are no different than saying a chariot of fire swept down into Egypt and said let there be light because some old fat scribe said so. Do you believe in nursery rhymes? Good. But like I say stop expecting anyone else to believe them, they should be allowed to live their own life. Zionistness and Christianity are a DIS-EASE is the bottom line. They make absolutely no sense at all and you damn well know it.

If you want to "feel good" about yourself, you don't need drugs or some made up bullshit like self-esteem or other verbs. All you have to do is thank yourself for being alive when you wake up. If you truly care about you, then whatever else anyone does or says means absolute jack shit anyway. You can write them off and if someone isn't your style you can cease being around them permanently. Not out of some jacked up "ego" einstein/cindy crawford state....but just out of plain having your boundaries. I mean god if people are pin cushions, then they are going to get stung all the time.

They'll get wrapped up in all this psychology mumbo jumbo/"I'm better than you"/"Prettier than you"/"Have more Jade Beads than you" self-help bullshit by the Richard Simmons / Tony Robbins crowd until all they damn well have is 99 cents....and a whole lot of nothing but fake friends!!! Only people who make out like bandits are the idiots who sell this crap to you, they'll take you for every cent you have left. Jenny Craig, Lifetime Magazine, all of these idol worshipers will succeed in making you feel worse about yourself than you ever have before right after you have it "made".....and feel like a million dollars. And why not? It makes these mental cases thousands per hour....it makes you.....absolutely nothing.

You get used up, spit out and turned into a perfect poster child for South Park. If you have actual morals you'll reject all the false constructs and throw self-esteem in the trash. People shouldn't have to have any approval from others, if they are confident and freaking secure to start with all the other "religious" crap is meaningless to them then. I have heard every negative comment someone could make to me, or someone else and I just pointed and laughed at them. All I had to say was "You know, you are an absolute idiot who's got nothing so why bother?" or I'd simply say "Hahahaha, you aren't actually serious.....are you? What a crackpot." and all these dumb numb-skulls who tear down each other over pointless bullshit welled up with red faces....and ran as fast as they could to never return. See normal people can just stare at these buffoons. If you already are confident and don't need anyone's approval then you could care less, you don't look for other's approval you laugh at the idiots who ask for it. And if it is a case where you always have people attracted to you who need "approval", then you dump these losers.....you tell them to get lost! I mean honestly, there is no such thing as self-esteem. It was invented by some egotistical roman Zionist douche-bag who had nothing but a mirror to look at himself all day. Self-worship, self-esteem, beauty whatever the fuck any of that is "really".

Yeah I mean our politicians are perfect examples....look how that turned out? If an arab is fat but they see themselves as healthy, because they also exercise, then who gives a damn if everyone is pointing at them and saying "Hah you are stupid". Damn, the Arab should just turn around and point and say "Say what? You speak so soft I can't figure you out.....are you a mental case? Hahaha get off your horse you brainless dodo!" because they'd probably all freak out and go.... oh shit. Because they are stupid. If they are insulting everyone and demanding approval, either/or, then they are pretty much the stupidest nimwits around. Ultimately none of that stuff matters, if you're going to be whatever and just enjoy that, approval or not, you're going to laugh at all the others.

The only people enslaved by a system of fake beliefs so stupid and insidious that it carved up the churches, turned millions into cultists and/or wiped out civilizations....is the people tuning into Oprah every saturday because they sincerely "believe" that approval is required & they should put down everyone and anything until they one day get approval. But see....these dimwits don't realize that just like NOAH never sailed his ark, they can never get approval as it don't exist. Instead they will get insulted and raped by the psychology self-helpitis industry until they go broke. The only people that will be laughing like mad at them are the non-collectivists and rest of society who woke up to how pointless, stupid, and trashy media is. Magazines are just as lame. This shit is so off base and out of character, that is the ONLY thing that can explain such an unhealthy society. That and all the retards who self-medicate or throw their lives away. It is because they buy into a cosmopolitan fraud made up by Queen Cleopatra. Sometimes I think all society would be better off if shitty pointless things like the Crown Jewels or Israel/Saudi Arabia had never been invented. Because if you look beneath the house, all it is built upon is a pile of sand. Lies drenched in a thousand year of lies do not make a society.

[Phys]

Nice stuff, EndAllApartheid.

Approval is also an evolutionary thing. Humans are social animals and we have communities something like this forum but in real life. We aren’t tigers or jaguars and live in solitude. There are some monks who do live in solitude but even they get visited by people for food.

It’s not a normal human function to be anti-social. If one is anti-social, it is likely because they were not cared for well in the early years of that person’s life. There is also nothing wrong with trying to improve your social skills and focusing on emotional balance. It’s the same as someone swimming and eating healthy to improve their health.

[TruthandConsequences]

"If one is anti-social, it is likely because they were not cared for well in the early years of that person’s life."

This type of immediate knee-jerk reaction is pretty much a concrete lie. In history people are easily fooled by fables. Doesn't really matter if the tree of life was meant to spread the seed of Cain, or if the great King Camelot slayed a dragon. These are all still made up hedonistic trash. There is still just as much voodoo and supremacist thought behind it.

For my own example, I happen to know zero people who have experienced what you described of not being cared for. And although I will not speak for anyone else in this thread, I can certainly say that the people whom I know were as anti-social as they come. Caricatures come in many forms, such is the fascinating part of dissecting what life is really about.

In other words, the people from my example were just simply normal. There's nothing wrong with them. They still chose not to engage in society's natural "social" itis, and one of them runs their own bank which trades in gold and silver. But they did make point about one thing, that is they told me self-esteem and aggrandizement are a fraud. If you believe in these things, you support plain and simple racism.

For a while I would say even my all seeing eye had great difficulty believing them. But as I dissected history more and more, I began to see that clearly things are not so simple. Queen Isabella of Spain was vain, but she was also a racist. She also supported quite religiously Jewish Supremacists and Xians whom plundered portugal. Christopher Columbus also supported her.

Her aspirations matched that of the Nazis and over time, it became extremely clear to me that the people I had met knew more about the world than I do. There is no question now for me, that religious supremacism and jewish supremacist belief is empowered by vanity and self-image. It all feeds into the same fake construct. Say whatever you will about religion, I call that just plain disgusting.

For as long as Jewish and Xian central supremacism has been around there has been people, comparing each other superficially. Comparing one's wealth, good looks, prestige and vanity to one another in a compulsive manner. Interacting on a wide scale in promiscuous and idolatrous ways that bring about war and death.

And not any of them were some unknown bogey man, they were sitting in royalty positions in front of all our faces being fed through our melodrama. It is in fact a fraud, for the earlier poster is correct. In holding up this level of racism, I would argue that individuals never get to experience who the other person is anyway. Basing things on a lie is not being alive. In Tibet everyone wears the same clothes most of the time without arguments....they seem to care not who looks like what. Tis not part of their spiritual quest and suprisingly their quiet cities have peace all year round.

Social standing meant absolutely nothing to the Native Americans. When me and my new found friends would engage each other, it wouldn't be for tribal entertainment. It would be far more deep and haughty, where one could simply experience who the other person is instead of a facade. As each person knows their own worth, they would have no interest in a self-image or pretty mirror to admire themselves. Those whom do are living some vivacious lie that supports supremacist thought and slavery. On top of that they don't seek higher esteem in others. In fact in many circles, fat occupants marry skinny occupants. They are beyond caring for such foolish and bone-headed sound bytes.

Who would bother doing such a thing, if you already know your own worth as a sovereign person....a living thing created by energy. I wouldn't argue with any of those whom I met, looking back. They saw through this fake education based racket and realized the world isn't made up of fake images. It is made up of real breathing people who have been hoodwinked by packs of hedonistic supremacists. Perhaps the real meaning of life is in the beholder's own eye.

[Phys]

Actually, the view that children develop trust and mistrust of the world in early years of their life is clinically shown and repeated. It isnt based on surveys or opinions.

To be completely anti-Social, is not the 'norm' of human behavior.

was your dad not in your life?
was someone in you family an addict?
where you hit in anger?
where you called mean things?
where you left alone a lot?
where you not the favorite?
did you parents let you cry a lot?
was your parent a sport freak and push you too hard?
where your parents anti-social?

There are many ways people develop there bad habits and can develop behaviors that are not conducive to a happy healthy life style. It isnt to make you less than. It is to identify why you do what you do. If there is a path you want to be on, then you should understand how you got on the current path.

[Ry]

Self-Esteem, Self-Worship & Self-Image

No not the same at all. Self Image obsession is from a lack of self esteem. Self esteem is from self actualization. Image is dependent on the opinion of others.

And men and women are not all the same. Some people are much better looking that others. This we're all the same bullshit is the last crying pipe dream of an ugly person who needs it to be true. The kind of chub a dub who'd accuse any thin person they saw of anorexia and anyone with self esteem as being obsessed with image, or anyone athletic as stupid etc they must attach a negative to anything superior because they belong to the cult of equality. The cult of equality is most appealing to people who suck at everything or feel that they do.

We don't worship hot women. We just think they're are hot, and at most lust for some of them given that they have more to go with it. There are all kinds of Beauty and it is by definition subjective. It's as subjective as music. You're going to have different types attracted to different genre but they can all almost uniformly agree on what isn't music or what's really bad. Even with a genre you don't like you can accept the skill level involved to produce it as something.

As for parenting and neglect etc. It can only effect those with an external locus of control. People who are self willed (green lanterns) can choose what they do rationally. That's the difference between people who are products of their environment from those who overcome it. They have accountability, and self will.

[TruthandConsequences]

To be completely anti-Social, is not the 'norm' of human behavior.

was your dad not in your life?
was someone in you family an addict?
where you hit in anger?
where you called mean things?
where you left alone a lot?
where you not the favorite?
did you parents let you cry a lot?
was your parent a sport freak and push you too hard?
where your parents anti-social?

And who decides all these criteria based off of whom's so called science? Psychologists and the APA or American Psychiatry Association? Drug manufacturers? Do you have any clue whatsoever who runs these institutions.....Does the fact they are all run by Jewish supremacists not mean anything to you?

I've learned to be skeptical of everything, and always first consider the source. Given that psychologists are not exactly entirely credible people, it would make little sense to assume they are right about anti-social/social status situations or pretty much anything else.

Of the sampling of people whom I conversed with, only one of them had a bad relationship with a parent. And the person wasn't even their parent, just a distant uncle whom really did not like them either way. So that was more of a mutual shared agreement of dislike; perfectly understandable.

What would have been more unhealthy for him, is probably to attend the local psychiatric hospital trying to "figure out" why he never gets along with his uncle, and prescribe him drugs to force them into getting along every week. Or how about routine therapy run by the state including supremacist idiots who don't deserve to be doctors. That would have been about as healthy for him as morphine. But it misses the point entirely. The point is out of over fifty known cases we ran into, very few if any, had a break in belonging. They were just plain anti-social because they view the behavior of socialism as a radical/unstable idea. As much as they interacted with each other it wasn't from social acuity. Either they liked each other or they did not.

No one forced them to hang around one another or agree. Just like no one said "Well you need to love this type of music and get along, because then you are being NORMAL. If you don't get along, there must be a serious problem with you." If they had I guarantee these individuals would have laughed in their face and written them off. People who I spoke to are much healthier and better off in fact. Whatever the reason happens to be, they get along regardless of being anti-social to society's norms. But I thought that's how life is supposed to be.....aren't we all meant to have freedom of choice? Don't we live in a free society where we don't really have to care what a doctor says? Just because the doctor has a title, how in the living daylights does that make them an authority over our lives? How about why do they become an authority figure over our free will? Children don't need people this self absorbed. That to me is the real mistake and thinking we can fix it with the same types is tragedy.

Racism always exists and the feelings of superiority are most harmful when it comes to children. Plain and simple I have never seen evidence that would conclude the psychiatry association is correct. If they are so very "correct" there would be no reason to force their religion down everyone's throats. There may be bad apples out there but they run in every basket. As a member of this society I have the choice and fortitude to opt out.

It's as subjective as music. You're going to have different types attracted to different genre but they can all almost uniformly agree on what isn't music or what's really bad.

Really Ry, are you serious about this stuff? I would have expected someone of your pedigree to know better. Who came up with the idea that there are "standards" of music or image to aspire to anyway? Was it not racists since the start? Then what's to say their idea of what is "really good" is actually true anyway? What if they aren't simply bad liars?

I hate metallica. I also think their music is terrible for the most part and most of my friends see no talent in the band. Yet they are universally praised as talented, leading singers of immense stature. We could care less. If they suck to someone, they suck in general which is okay. Nobody asked for some "standard" to have to meet every time. I wouldn't personally care if someone insulted Garth Brooks and said he had no talent, even if he does for me. I don't get all sensitive over impossible to meet standards. After all, it is normally racists who first came up with impossible to meet standards.

If that is the case, then opting out of this mistake should be our choice. I see a lot of nerds or just people with bad haircuts who get all the attention, all the girls/prestige or whatever else it is they get now. I really could care less even if I happen to believe it's bizarre. After all, looks/image/value is in the eye of the beholder. It's awesome to all of them so it doesn't matter if it is not awesome to me. It's all going to be subjective right, so why use these idiotic standards at all. Do we need standardized tests across the board too? No. If we should choose to leave Jewish level supremacism behind, then one should choose to leave it in all its forms.

Putting standards on everyone is just another way to use people. Oh I could care less if not everyone is the same looking, as society would be like a land filled with robots if that was the case. But everyone who is smart at least, should treat each other with equal respect and encourage their differences. That might get rid of the ugly people inside & out since they would not have the racism excuse called religion to beat over everyone's heads indiscriminately. Thomas Paine said it best. We crave freedom yet don't even know how to live on our own.