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Post by Ry » Thu Jul 23, 2009 2:24 pm

it makes you a Judaic.
It makes you Hebrew Drew. That's te proper word for the ethnicity without the religious belief. That is what they called themselves and what other nations called them (Hebrew is a Phoenician word) before Judaism was even invented.

Leds it wasn't David Scott. This guy was definitely a Republican. Ill find his face later and figure out who he was.

I just had a meeting with the Dare Counry Commissioner today. I find out they are paying this guy Gary 80 thousand dollars to work on getting the beaches open. The guy doesn't do jack shit. He didn't speak at the meeting (I spoke and got a standing ovation) he didn't go to DC (I did) he didn't go on the radio (I did) he didn't go on TV (I did) he didn't make internet videos etc (I have) I wasn't on a talk show (I was) he hasn't made any billboards or signs (I have) and most of all he hasn't made a movie with testimonials from people all over the Island (I have).

But he gets 80 thousand dollars and I get Zero. My brother organized a meeting last winter and we created a phone blitz that got HR 718 written up. All we got for it was flack. No money nothing.

It pisses me off to no end that some guy you had to raise his hand in order for people to know who he was, is getting paid tens of thousands of dollars to do basically noting and I am busting my ass with a newborn worming full time and teaching jiujitsu and using every spare hour on the beach issue and I get NOTHING.
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Post by ReALity » Thu Jul 23, 2009 5:18 pm

woah thats soo messed up, that some guy is getting paid for NOT doing the job hes meant to be doing- who gave him the job?? he should get fired & if its local people from hatteras that gave him that position, they should be notified & they should fire him & give Ry the money.

@Ry dude havent you got a cellphone with a video camera built in?? i can try to get you one if you want.
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awesome work Ry !!
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Post by Oneismany » Fri Jul 24, 2009 4:46 am

you go, Ryan!

That's so awesome you pwned the religious fanatics. because that is what they are. they consider themselves to be true and right and sane, and many many people agree with those same beliefs but they are all deluded and easily manipulated people. but since there are so many of them they have power, which is just so fucked up and discouraging against more sane people getting into politics. they are like the Taliban, they want a religious theocracy in the US and maybe they will get it. because these people just support Israel out of stupid faith, and they let Israel lobby Congress and spy on the US and commit murder in Gaza and 9/11 and they believe every myth about the Holocaust and they would let Israel change the US constitution to allow a dual citizen President who isn't even born in the US. it's so fucked up; i thought i lived in an age of reason but i was so so wrong about that.
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Post by Ry » Fri Jul 24, 2009 6:29 am

We had a very successful trip to DC.

Recreational Park by Law, Bird Refuge by Decree.


But let me tell you how screwed up DC is.
These people don't read hardly ANY of the bills they vote on. The normal process is they look to see how their chairman voted of their party and they vote the same way. Some of them are reading speeches on the floor that they've never even seen. This was admitted to me by their own staff. They just read along with no idea what they are talking about.

In our case, I the last time we had a bill to re-open the beaches,( America's oldest recreational park,) ALL the Republicans voted for it and ALL the Democrats voted against it. Now there is no way it just happened to land that way. This should not a be partisan issue at all.

So I went and talked to the Democrats since the Republicans were already on our side. I also talked to the Republicans just to give them ammo. Mind you that it was a Republican judge that did this to us. This judge is just bought and paid for by special interest groups. But all the Democrats voted the way of the judge anyway because they saw the title "environment" on t the bill and they just automatically voted down the bill to re-open beaches without having a clue what was going on. Whoever came before me to DC didn't communicate well enough to these Democrats because when I spoke to them they acted like it was the first time they had ever heard about it.

I went in there with a DVD full of testimonials form people on Hatteras Island and Ocracoke. I had pictures and gave a presentation about what was really happening and some letters I had written summing up the issue and the history also a letter given to me from another Islander about the scientific statistics and how bad they had been distorted. I also gave the then history of how the recreation park was legally created by the government through legislation making it a Recreational Park and NOT a wild life refuge. They have no more right to close it down for birds than they do private property. Imagine a city shutting down a children's ball field because after it was built and used for over 5 generations a pigeon decided to land there or it was determined that kids playing on the baseball diamond could be harming the crickets. IT DOESN'T MATTER Because its already a Recreational park and the land was donated to the state in order to build a ball field not to make a zoo for crickets or pigeons.

Further more it is completely backwards for the judicial branch acting on behave of the executive branch through an executive order from impeached president Nixon, to shut down our beach. The park was created with consent of the Islanders and it was created through congressional law. Laws are mad by congress. Laws are made by the elected portion of our government and the legislative branch of our government. The law states that our seashore is a recreational area and the responsibility of the National Park Service is to Provide access to it not limit access to it. What is the point of having a recreational area that you can't even use?

Now we've always had a balance with nature. That is why development is not allowed in the park. It's for recreation not condos. But right now even foot traffic is banned from the beach. Somehow it was extrapolated from a dated executive order, (which has no power of law,) about ORVs to include walking. The park was closed without the consent of any Islanders or any legislation. It was just done by decree from a judge like a king acting on behave of completely ignorant special interest groups which havn't put two facts together the whole time.

And we are stuck in the position of proving a negative. While the Park Service deliberates on a plan (that well know they have no interest in doing until its set up to profit themselves) the moratorium is that beaches are closed which is what they want anyway. We have to prove that we are not harming the bird and they don't have to show that we are harming them they merely just claim it. Truth is based on the word of people who have never even been here and not attached to data. They are also ignoring causation and relying purely on correlations which is about as scientific as cosmopolitan magazine quizzes. Why can they shut our beaches down and effect all of these people's lives BEFORE they have any data to say it's needed. The Park Service should be sued by us for not developing a plan the next day which just kept the beaches as they were anyway. THEN they could continue to gather data to see if any harm was being done to birds or whatever and how to balance it and AFTER getting data make a case to close the beaches. And that would still be rejected on the ground that's a recreational park by law and can only be changed by law and will of the people.

These interest groups put out propaganda that the whole thing has been a success and there hasn't been any negative economic impacts. WOW. Well I can tell you that that is pure BS. Obviously if you shut down a beach on an Island it's going to destroy it. And that is what has happened to to the way of life down here and the businesses. And it has cost us hundreds of thousands of dollars to administer this asinine attack and it has caused the deaths of thousands of other animals. And for all their efforts the bird populations are practically stagnate. They remain just as they have been for the past 9 years. Some of the nesting zones roped off for piping plover nesting have been document and filmed as being totally underwater! OH BUT THAT DOESN'T MATTER THEY JUST DROPPED THE PLOVER PRETEXT AND MOVED ON TO ANOTHER RATIONALIZATION AND SO NOW THE BEACHES ARE CLOSED FOR American Oystercathers.

It's insanity. I can't take my son to the beach the way I went when I was a child. But an Egg of an oystercatcher has more right to our recreational park than he has. He's never been. He was born after they shut down the beach.

What is wrong with America? Where is the press? How come I had to make a movie to show congress in order to even have a chance that they might listen this go around. My brother an I organized a phone blitz which Senator Burr informed me was very effective. When I was in DC in Senator Hagan's office she told me she visited Cape Lookout so at least she had been around the area. Fortunately for me I happened to know two people working for her because one went to William & Mary and another lived in Charlottesville and has a sister who is friends with my sister. So I finally got to voice everything not only to them but to Cooke, Hagan's environmental lawyer, and head of energy and environment, and then Hagan herself. I can tell you that Cooke does everything because Hagan is a typical politician. A face and that's about it.

That how it was in most offices. Margret Brooks of Burr's Office was very helpful and Josh Bowlen of Jone's office let me talk to him for a full hour. So he's the man. The whole office was closed but we were in there talking anyway. He knew about the issue but not the legal argument I brought with me or the scientific arguments.

That is what blows my mind. Here we are without our public beaches, and yet there isn't ANY data to show that people on the beach were harmful to the said birds (even if they keep switching the birds around). All there is, is a claim by Southern Environmental Law. It's a claim without any data and they don't have any science. Not one, not one paper or study has been subject to peer review that they are using. However the studies that have been done which have had peer review show that people on the beach have not had an impact on the rates of bird at all. Actually it's had a positive impact because now that all the people have been removed the natural predators are moving in.

Our country is run by 20 something year old interns who filter and sift through information on who gave what money to their team and that's what determines what gets done, not justice, not public interest, not majorities. Majority opinion can be virtually created by the media, and corporate interest win every time.

Ron Paul's office was helpful they are going to have Paul sign yes to HR 718 from Walter Jones. That's a start.

I have an interview today with British media. Isn't that kind of sad. That British media is getting to this before my own state?

I've got the contacts of two men from Southern Environmental Law who serve on their board. I'll be explaining this all to them today too. Everyone I talk to on Audobon etc normally has no clue what they even did. That's so irresponsible. Here they are ruining all these people's lives and they don't even know about it. They just attach themselves to a cause like typical leftist brainless bleeding hearts and have no idea, NO IDEA what they are really abetting.

It's like televangelist. What if anything is more detrimental to religion than religious extremists? Well, environmental extremist are what cause animosity to environmentalism as a whole. No one can trust them because they always lie about everything else.

I just had a meeting with the Dare County Commissioner yesterday. I find out they are paying this guy Gary 57.6 thousand dollars to work on getting the beaches open but really a budget of 80 thousand from the Tourist Board. The guy hasn't done much in communicating our need or making awareness. That's all come from Islanders of Hatteras. The Democrats I talked to in the Senate had never even heard of the issue aside from Hagan and that was because of our phone blitz. Gary didn't speak at the last two meetings (I spoke and got a standing ovation) he didn't go to DC (I did) he didn't go on the radio (I have) he didn't go on TV (I have) he didn't make internet videos etc (I have) I wasn't on a talk show (I was) he hasn't made any billboards or signs (I have with Chad and Parks) and most of all he hasn't made a movie with testimonials from people all over the Island (I have), he didn't hold a live protest (I did) He didn't make any phone blitz (I did). And the website he "manages" he didn't even create. All it really does is cut and paste news form the NPS website and preach to the choir. This site here gets more hits in an hour than their site does in a week.

But he gets 80 thousand dollars and I get Zero and the other groups on Hatteras are donation only. My brother organized a meeting last winter and we created a phone blitz that helped get HR 718 written up. All we got for it was flack. No money no support from government only the poeple. I'm sure Gary is a nice guy and all but he is not effective. I could quit right now and he'd never catch up to the work hours I've put into this. They want me to send them a copy of the committees I met with and a copy of the DVD we made with the testimonials on it. I'm halfway ready to tell them no. If they want to see it I'll bring it to the next meeting on my own. Get Mr. 80 thousand to make his own film and drive to DC and do what I did.

It pisses me off to no end that some guy you had to raise his hand in order for people to know who he was, is getting paid tens of thousands of dollars to do basically noting and I am busting my ass with a newborn worming full time and teaching jujitsu and using every spare hour on the beach issue and I get NOTHING and neither do all the people out there who have up their blogs, and organizations who've been forced to collect donations in a bucket from people who really have little to give. It's practically all Hatteras. That meeting on the 15th of June was essentially a Cape Hatteras convention because that is who drove an hour or more and showed up. But where is OUR representation? After the meeting people came up to thank me and talk to me. Gary was ignored. Our Island is always neglected by this good old boy network. They don't have any faith in them. They have more faith in me and my family than they do our local government, which isn't hard. We've got organizations down here formed by Islanders on Hatteras like the OBPA who are willing to donate money to our cause to ACTUALLY get things done meanwhile up the beach they've spend tend of thousand if not hundreds of thousand to pay a guy to do next to nothing. We can Thank The people here http://www.youtube.com/SaveCapeHatteras who spoke and the others who came and all the work being done out of pocket by people in Cape Hatteras and Ocracoke.


This is what is wrong with this place and why we get in the hellish messes that we do. I'm going to put the DVD in Connors and Red Drum, Frank and Fran's, Finnegan's etc. We have to fix this ourselves. I'll continue to be an unpaid lobbiest and work for what's right because it is right. But I am not going to ignore the blatant waste or resources and stupidity of our own commission who signed the Decent and Decree.

You see that's the only legislative body to touch this and that's why it's legal and that's why the beaches are closed. They were bullied an intimidated into doing it and they regret it. But don't let them act like they had no choice. They had a choice. They could say no. And the judge had no power to shut down the beach without them no matter what he said or lied about because he is not a legislative body and he does not have the power to overturn congressional law nor does an executive order. I talked to 5 lawyers that's 5 lawyers in the DC offices who confirmed that to me.

And if you want to be interviewed contact me [email protected] or try your luck with Gary, he doesn't live on the Island though, but he is willing to help by saying he's helping. Together we WILL have our beaches kept open. I believe Hagan is now on board and that is what we needed, a Democrat to break the party tribalism.

Recreational Park by Law, Bird Refuge by Decree.
People are ignored but special interests control the sea.
America is a rent-a-government, a plutocratic auction rules
People need new leadership, so it's time we vote out all the tools.

Given me my freedom, god damn your excuses
We need our Beaches and no more abuses.
We're sick of neglect, we won't take anymore
Replace the foolish signers and take back our shores.





Thank you Jah Knee for the help with the videos and everyone on the Outer Banks who hasn't given up and continues to fight, protest and call, write, and blog for the cause.

Monday there is another meeting up in Manteo and we should flood that one as well


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Post by Ry » Fri Jul 24, 2009 9:45 pm

ha ha ha I'm already getting character assassinations. lol I feel like a real lobbiest already. I'm going to try to bait the wittle wed neck that's talking trash mot to me but to his e-mail list, into doing MMA for charity just so I can legally put him in his place.

It's that sad? Someone does something for a cause after being begged to do it and then shit gets talked behind their back.

Well I guess the down side of getting the beaches open is some people might feel like they were "fighting it first" and fighting for years and if someone comes along does everything that is needed and the beaches open. Then maybe the people fighting for years look inept or incompetent.

But only a self centered ass would view everything like it's about themselves. No one is trying to open the beaches in a hurry to make other people look ineffective. We're getting the beaches open because we want them open. We're pointing out government waste and mistakes because that's part of the solution. It doesn't make us against the government, it makes us hold them accountable and demand more of them but not while sitting in a chair but doing ourselves what we ask them to do.

We're working with them but we are not relying on them. It's time for citizens to man up and take actions for themselves and stop waiting for some leader on the hill to save them.

It kind of seems like a chronic ill in this country right now for people to not own up and take responsibility when they make a mistake. It's all a blame game and a cut down game. Our county signed consent decree. They did not have to. Yes they thought they had to. But they did not have to. Dr. Coffman made that quite clear that the local government has the most power, that might have been a shock to some of the commissioners but not to others.
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Post by Ry » Wed Aug 05, 2009 3:17 pm

Well Senator Burr introduced a bill S1557 to re-open the beach and Senator Hagan is Co-sponsoring the bill.

We did it!

Now we have a Republican and a Democrat sponsoring the bill. And all the democrats that voted it down last time were met with and given DVDs.

No doubt our worthless county commission will try to take credit.

But just remember who got things done who went to DC on his own dime and got Hagan on board and who flooded her office with two phone blitz.

Meanwhile Gary is paid 52k to do nothing.
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Post by Apricot » Wed Aug 05, 2009 3:23 pm

Ryan, do you know who exactly is in charge of the hiring? Also, how long does this dude Gary get to keep this job, I mean doesn't he have to produce results to keep the job or what?? Do you need us to make phone calls so you get hired?
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Post by Ry » Wed Aug 05, 2009 3:44 pm

it won't matter they don't care it's just a good old boy network.
The commission had him hired thorugh the tourist board and it's not Gary's fault he's just a useless guy taking a fat pay check. It's the commissions fault for creating a job out of the blue and having this idiot fill the position.

I went there for a job or money to cover my expenses and got shafted. Even though hands down I did the most to get the beaches open. If I didn't make a film and go to congress myself then the beaches would stll be closed just as they were last year.
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Post by Apricot » Wed Aug 05, 2009 3:51 pm

We, your friends, could stir the pot no doubt. Maybe they would rethink their position..?
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