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Post by ImpeachTheChimp » Mon Jul 03, 2006 12:25 am

Richie wrote:Who cares if the missions were faked? It is not relevant at all today unless you are involved in space missions. There are many issues which are much more important.
I'd say that the relevance behind it helps to establish a clear history of repeated deceptions and staged incidents on the part of the US government. From the explosion of the USS Maine in the Spanish American War, to the JFK assassination, to the Gulf of Tonkin, to Operation Northwoods, to the faked Moon landings, all the way up to 911 and beyond.

I know that it is a statement of the obvious to most of those on this forum but this government has consistently lied to the public throughout it's sordid history, so why should anyone with half a brain trust them now?

However I didn't mean to hijack the thread so for that I do apologize. Sometimes I tend to go off on tangents. Please continue on about the Illuminati smokescreen.
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Post by Ry » Mon Jul 03, 2006 12:58 am

it is relavent in that its an important peice of history and I could undestand the government faking some crisp clear photos should the others show nothing but darkness. No way even NASA is dumb enough to not bring lighting to such an important plae to document. They didn:t pack a flag and all the gear and a camera and now bring lights. Hell the little hubble car things even had lights.

it is not really relavent to this thread however. Its just a tangent. By the way I used to date a girl whose father a pathologist was friend with one of our current astronauts. Long story short, the government purposely leaked out stuff about the shadows and also a 15 second delay on the audio feed apparently where they said what the fuck is that referring to an alien. Obviously there was no space creature. But this is part of a larger cover up of Area 51 a secret military base which has stolen trillopns from the tax payers. its where the Stealth bomber was created.

People were seeing the craft over the West and Mexico so they pushed the alien angle to discret it and shut it up. The Government pushed this hard about 11 years ago by running programs like Unsolved Mytsteries which started promoting the big eyed alien myth who is now a consumer project and rehashed rosewald etc ect then they put up the X files and a long series of shows to keep the public guessing.

this david icke crap is the lastest in attaching fiction to truth to discredit it all. There were even christian/alien cults like Hevens gate who all commited suicide following a comet.

the illuminati is another brand of turd however as it took old Protestant propaganda against the Catholics and turned it into a Vatican bashing cult of WASP wo think the elites worship the devil. Sorry folks but its the Protestant Christian Churches including the main stream ones who have the alliance with the Jews/Zionists who own the banks and the press. No one gives more money to Israel than Churches, who follow god not the devil.

there is no devil and there is no (Christian) god these are all methods to control you. They make billions and billions off you suckers.
The church financed ever war since the time of the Crusades to Now. They created Manifest destiny.

and for the record here is a dollar bill before 1957 before in god we trust was added and before the Christian mason cults got hold of it.
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here is the dollar from 1929 there is no in god we trust and there is no piramyd etc all that kooky religious crap was added in 1956-57 when Congress was controlled by Republicans and they thought they woulf fight the "atheists" communists.

Now we have the great seal on that back which reads Annuit Cœptis God has favored our undertaking.

Novus Ordo Seclorum by the way means New Order of the Ages. Now thetre are numerous refference to the number 13 as in the 13 colonies but it could also be Jesus and his 12 apostles. Which is likely given all the other praise god crap that they added.

Free masons were land owners once upon a time and they are nothing liek the Secular Sons of Liberty style founder fathers today. They are just a cult of religious kooks who dont even allow women to participate in it.

and thats your real illuminati, Right wing Christians.
The people at the Grove are highly religious most of them Christians and Jews.

We got EVIDENCE of Zionists being involved in the run up to the War in Iraq, and Iran and also 911 plus three different spy rings and people caught at the scene. What more do you need? please please drop the distraction.
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Post by Redelicious » Mon Jul 03, 2006 1:07 am

I had not seen a dollar pre-1957 before thank you.

I am convinced after your book that Israel was the Primary movers not just a player, in this 911/perpetual war mess that we are in. The Zionists cabal hijacked our government with the full support of the money from the Christian crazies and the corporate war-hogs.
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Post by Ry » Fri Aug 11, 2006 4:06 pm

I have people disagree with me but never with my evidence. They like to add stuff to it but they dont have evidence and I do. That's the difference between me and Alex Jones. His illuminati crap just missed the boat with Israeli stuff and now he knows it. It's pretty damn clear to everyone one now how deeply involved Zionism is.

I have been saying and will continue to tell you that Zionists brought us these wars and 911, not the vatican not the "iluminati" and not the space lizards.

Wake up and smell the Israeli turd on America.

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keep arguing with me guys, time is revealing who has been right all a long.

Listen I like Alex, I just dont like the Israeli dodge, yeh NOW he is talking about it AFTER they bombed Lebanon. But what was before that? Nonsense about the illuminati and so forth. NO one at that 911 convention in LA talked about Israel and its plans for Lebanon or where PNAC originated. Because they like Christians, are intelligent people but unable to see through the brain washing and look at the REAL puppet masters here. It's not Bush or the Rockefellers/queen of England/or Catholics, its the Zionists.

How could so many bright minds get together and not be able to see a month into the future? where As I can get on the radio and call it a year in advance and do a play by play this summer of the events that are happening now? No Im not that smart. I just have whiped away the veil of religious bullshite which prevents people from seeing who really finances this operation and has been making the plans.

Religion is BS. please see my prior post. here
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Post by cassanovafrankenstein » Fri Aug 11, 2006 4:38 pm

I'm inclined to believe that there isn't a God in the sense that most religions imagine it, but I can't be sure, and there are strange and wonderful things that seem to transcend logic and physics, so I just take the agnostic position. It don't cost much to defer to a big guy in times of crisis, and the return can be substantial. It's like a free pull on a million $ slot machine.
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Post by Robert Drake » Fri Aug 11, 2006 7:08 pm

I've been leaning in this direction since 911, and lost most doubt following the London Bombing. All the evidence I've seen points to the zionists. How do you answer those who ask "how can they keep something of this scale secret?" And yes, I know most of the evidence is right out in the open, people just won't look, but I mean the large scale "false flag" operations?

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Post by Ry » Fri Aug 11, 2006 7:19 pm

how do they keep it a secret? good question, well think of this. Israel has occupied Palestine for 37 years illegally and brutally. How many Americans know about it?

thats how they keep it secret. media control.
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Post by Robert Drake » Fri Aug 11, 2006 7:33 pm

But how do you keep 911 a secret? It happened in the US, in New York. People don't talk? It had to have involved a far number of people, are they all keeping quiet? How do you keep that many people quiet? I think I have some theories on that, like to hear yours.

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Post by Ry » Fri Aug 11, 2006 7:34 pm

why did it have to involve so many people? Surely it was less people than Iran Cotra and they kep that a secret for a decade an it involved multiple countries and billions of dollars.

911 sn't really a secret people have leaked I think about a third of the US believes it was an inside job if not more.
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Post by fimart » Sat Aug 12, 2006 3:12 am

Richie wrote:Who cares if the missions were faked? It is not relevant at all today unless you are involved in space missions. There are many issues which are much more important.
If they can lie about that then what else have they lied about!!! A very important issue I believe. I personally believe this lie was all part of the gradual doping of the people into believing in the power and might of the USA.

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