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nearly 50% of Americans want attack on Iran

Post by Muhammad Ali » Mon Jul 21, 2008 9:53 am

I hope this puts all the "70% of Americans want the US completely out of the middle east and to stop funding Israel" talk to rest. Yeah Americans don't want to send Israel money but they want to a fight a war where hundreds of thousands will die and our economy will crash. I don't think so.



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Nearly Fifty Percent of Americans Think U.S. Should Help Israel Attack Iran

If we are to believe the results of a Rasmussen poll released on July 20, an astounding number of Americans have no problem helping Israel attack Iran. “Forty-two percent (42%) of Americans say that if Israel launches an attack against Iran, the United States should help Israel. The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey found that 46% believe the United States should do nothing while just 1% believe the U.S. should help Iran.”

Moreover, once again demonstrating a complete ignorance of history and an absence of rational thinking — predictable, considering most Americans receive their historical and political education from the corporate media — 47% “believe it is at least somewhat likely Iran will try to provoke some form of attack before November in an attempt to influence the U.S. elections.”

In other words, so important is the American election to the Iranians, they will court the sort of chaos and social disintegration currently underway in Iraq to determine the outcome of the American election, an absurdity at best. But then Americans excel at buying into absurdities, the more ludicrous the better.

It does not matter who ends up in the Oval Office, be it McCain or Obama, because the policy toward Iran will be similar, if not identical. If this poll demonstrates anything, it is that the average voter of the sort polled by Rasmussen is effectively brainwashed and believes there is actually some sort of difference between Democrats and Republicans. Apparently, the Rasmussen voter also thinks the United States is at the center of the universe and all other nations pay close attention to our every political move before putting on their shoes in the morning. In fact, this sort of mindless “American exceptionalism” is resented and held in contempt by millions of people around the world.

In a normal, objective, historically accurate, and non-Bushzarro world, the Rasmussen voter would take into consideration the fact the British and the CIA worked directly with royalist Iranian military officers to overthrow the democratically elected government of Mohammad Mosaddeq and installed the brutal dictator Mohammad Reza Shah Pahlavi and his SAVAK torturers.



Fox News Channel’s Brian Kilmeade employs lies and disinformation in a vicious tirade against the people of Iran.


“The coup was a turning point in modern Iranian history and remains a persistent irritant in Tehran-Washington relations. It consolidated the power of the shah, who ruled with an iron hand for 26 more years in close contact with the United States,” notes the Iran Chamber Society.

For the average American, however, the history of Iran begins with the takeover of the American embassy on November 4, 1979. “You have no right to complain, because you took our whole country hostage in 1953,” one of the hostage takers told Bruce Laingen, chief U.S. diplomat in Iran at the time (see Stephen Kinzer on US-Iranian Relations, the 1953 CIA Coup in Iran and the Roots of Middle East Terror). The Rasmussen voter is completely ignorant of this, thanks to decades of lopsided propaganda emanating from the corporate media.

In fact, it is the United States and Israel that are attempting to provoke an attack on Iran, not the other way around.

“An unnamed Israeli security official claims U.S. President George Bush will attack Iran late this year if talks on the Mideast nation’s nuclear program falter,” reports United Press International. “The Israeli Web site DEBKAfile.com, quoting Israel National Radio, reported Sunday that a ‘highly placed security-political’ official said Bush would order the attack between Nov. 4, the date of the U.S. presidential election, and his last day in office in January 2009 should Iran not agree to abandon its efforts to enrich uranium.” DEBKAfile is a documented Israeli intelligence asset and it is indicative the UPI would quote what is obviously pro-Israeli propaganda.

Once again, the corporate media is in the process of preparing the American people for an illegal invasion of a sovereign country at the behest of the neocons. It is no mistake the airwaves are rife with propaganda, on occasion quite vicious, for example the tirade of Fox News Channel’s Brian Kilmeade (see video above), a tirade predicated on lies allowed to go out without response.

Is it any wonder the average American, or at least the “Rasmussen voter” — incapable of breaking the voodoo spell of the corporate media — will once again support a premeditated mass murder campaign?
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Post by Ry » Mon Jul 21, 2008 10:02 am

70 oppose the US going into Iran but see when you add in Israel 20% change their minds. WHY?


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Post by Muhammad Ali » Mon Jul 21, 2008 10:19 am

Ry wrote:70 oppose the US going into Iran but see when you add in Israel 20% change their minds. WHY?


RELIGION
It's not religion man. It's 60 years of pro Israel/Jew brainwashing. If Americans cared about religion as much as you thought they did why is our society so morally corrupt and degraded ?


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Post by Ry » Mon Jul 21, 2008 10:44 am

No it's religion. That is who sends Israel billions of dollars tax free. And how about year 1 of those 60 years? Everyone in America associates Israel with the Bible. Even I did when I was a kid because that is what I was told. I was never told that there was a Palestine, I learned about it in history class (by doing my own study outside of school, this was pre-internet days) with the British invading Palestine and was like wait isn't that Israel, oh no Israel was created in 1948, Really!? I thought.

the people that support Israel in America are by and large the ultra religious people and the Jews. if a person supports Israel and they are not religious and you just explain to them about the occupation and what Israel is doing which is not on the news then they will change their mind. But a religious person never changes their mind and no facts can sway it because it is not based in reality anyway.
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Post by Int'l man of mystery » Mon Jul 21, 2008 10:48 am

Muhammad Ali wrote:It's not religion man. It's 60 years of pro Israel/Jew brainwashing. If Americans cared about religion as much as you thought they did why is our society so morally corrupt and degraded ?
Even if all American don't, Christian fundamentalists certainly have religious reasons for supporting Israel.

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Post by general hoke » Mon Jul 21, 2008 11:45 am

someone asked if America is so religious then why so morally corrupt?

because it is so religious du. religion doesn't make people moral it makes them hate everyone who does not worship the same invisible god they do and read the same mythology book. less religion would equal more morals. religions divide they are the root of war and injustice. America was founded on the genocide of 100 million people and justified by the churches. look at the boarding school act where Native American children were kidnapped as young as 3 and sent to boarding schools to learn to be christians and beaten if they spoke anything but English. religion creates a closed mind and a heart of hate.
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Post by Bender » Mon Jul 21, 2008 2:18 pm

Every single pro-war fuck should live with a decaying corps for a week.

Make that a month.
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Post by operator-c » Mon Jul 21, 2008 6:18 pm

general hoke wrote:someone asked if America is so religious then why so morally corrupt?

because it is so religious du. religion doesn't make people moral it makes them hate everyone who does not worship the same invisible god they do and read the same mythology book. less religion would equal more morals. religions divide they are the root of war and injustice. America was founded on the genocide of 100 million people and justified by the churches. look at the boarding school act where Native American children were kidnapped as young as 3 and sent to boarding schools to learn to be christians and beaten if they spoke anything but English. religion creates a closed mind and a heart of hate.
I highly suggest anyone and everyone to read Richard Dawkin's book The God Delusion; specifically, chapter seven titled THE 'GOOD' BOOK AND THE CHANGING MORAL ZEITGEIST, as well as chapter six titled, THE ROOTS OF MORALITY: WHY ARE WE GOOD?

Basically, the way Dawkins puts it, and I agree with him, is that all people do not get their morals from religion, but elsewhere, and that society has shifted its general attitude on moral issues (such as black's and women's rights) compared to when the Bible was first written/compiled-- when slavery and the horrendous views on women were nothing short of barbaric.

I fear anybody that receives their morals from the bible; most people pick and choose bits and pieces from the bible to fit their own moral standards anyway.
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Post by Ry » Tue Jul 22, 2008 1:40 am

less religion would equal more morals
thus Japan.

You can chart crimes rates and murder with religiosity. And when Europe and America were at their most religious is when they were committing Genocide.

I dont think religion makes them this way I think they are this way and they make religion the way it is. If you got rid of their religion they would invent a new one (almost the same as the last one) and it would be just as bad.
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Post by Int'l man of mystery » Wed Jul 23, 2008 9:40 am

Ry wrote:thus Japan.

You can chart crimes rates and murder with religiosity. And when Europe and America were at their most religious is when they were committing Genocide.

I dont think religion makes them this way I think they are this way and they make religion the way it is. If you got rid of their religion they would invent a new one (almost the same as the last one) and it would be just as bad.
I think Michael Rivero's analogy of religion as a car, best describes it.

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