To all the morons who say Palestine never existed

[neoConSlayer]

BTW, will I ever see these comment in your site? Or will you delete it

why in the world would anyone delete a comment from someone who has the mental sophistication of a 3 year old? Honestly, do you listen to yourself when you give your zionist infested version of history? Someone else killed other people first so its okay for us to do it now! Yeh! thats the ticket. We need posts like this from diluted zionist's, reason being (since i'm sure you need EVERYTHING explained in simple monosyllabic terms) anyone with 1/100th of a brain and any grounding in ACTUAL history can debunk your drivel with minimal effort, even while inebriated.

in addition, we dont need to censor the opposing viewpoint (as you and your ADL lackies constantly find the "need" to) because we speak the TRUTH which stands on it's own, unlike your fairytale version of history / "reality"

[Ry]

Cyrus II did NOT free the Judeans (I prefer to say Judeans, the people of ancient Judah, because to call them Jews assumes a religious/cultural continuity to meodern Jews that I don't think really exists) from what is now Egypt. The Babylonians *did* briefly capture northern Egypt, but when Nebuchadnezzar II conquered Jerusalem (or rather, when, aftewards, the Judeans rebelled against him), he had them deported to Babylonia, in what is now central and southern Iraq. When Cyrus II came along some 60 years later, he released the Judeans and many other peoples who the Babylonians had deported. This was not out of any hatred of slavery - slavery was a fact of life in the ancient world - but rather shrewd politics. All those released people would be devoted subjects thereafter, and help prevent rebellions and stabilize the new Persian Empire he was building. Indeed, Cyrus is the only non-Jew spoken well of in the Bible. The Babylonian king that Cyrus defeated was Nabonidus, who did seem to have a particular affinity for the cult of the moon god Sin, which may well have offended Babylon, whose patron god was Marduk, head of the Babylonian pantheon, but the real reason the Babylians eventually gave in to Cyrus are not really known. It could well be that they saw they were beaten, and decided that they'd rather invite the victor in to their city rather than have their city sacked and burned all for the lost cause of supporting the defeated Nabonidus.

half true.

Slavery was part of the ancient world. But Cyrus didn't believe in it. He released all the slaves of every ethnicity. His rules were there would be no slave traders, no poison sellers, and women could work along side men. There were NO SLAVES in Ancient Persia. he was way ahead of his time. And slavery was very much an issue and a reason for him.

http://www.iranchamber.com/history/cyru ... harter.php

the political formulization of racial, linguistic, and religious equality, slaves and all deported peoples were to be allowed to return to home; and all destroyed temples were to be restored

My only problem with him is that he was also a vegetarian.

[jibberjabbers]

The land rightfully belongs to the Palestinian. The promise land crap, is just that. Crap. A land the was "promised" to them by their "God".

In the Book, "The myth of the Jewish People". The author (an Israeli Professor) make claim that the Palestinians are more closely related, and are a direct descendants of the Old Testament "Israelites"

Over 90% of the Jews in Israel are Ashkenazi Jews. These paled skin, blued eyed racist idiots don't belong in Palestine. Look at the demographics. The Area surrounding Palestine/Israel are all surrounded by Africans and Arabs. Now pale skinned Europeans.

Palestine has all the history and culture in that Area. Israel basically has none. So what do they do? They steal it and destroy what they don't want.

Using the "BIBLE" as proof that the land belongs to them is just insane. A book that claims the world was created in 7 days. That Noah saved all the Animals of the world in his ARK, Eve was created from Adams RIB, etc etc. LOL STOP THE BS ISRAEL.

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9. David Ben Gurion (the first Israeli Prime Minister): “If I were an Arab leader, I would never sign an agreement with Israel. It is normal; we have taken their country. It is true God promised it to us, but how could that interest them? Our God is not theirs. There has been Anti - Semitism, the Nazis, Hitler, Auschwitz, but was that their fault ? They see but one thing: we have come and we have stolen their country. Why would they accept that?” Quoted by Nahum Goldmann in Le Paraddoxe Juif (The Jewish Paradox), pp121.
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[Ry]

Well Even though I agree that historically Palestinians were there long before the Jews especially the Ashkanazi branch. It really doesn't matter. No group has the right to murder others no matter what. What the Zionist are doing is ethnic cleansing. It wouldn't matter if they were pure Hebrew Jews or European Jews or whatever. That is irrelevant.

I live in North Carolina, I'm also a Native American, that doesn't give me a right to say who can move here or not or who the state belongs to. It's not a racial state or a religious state it doesn't belong to any group of people, it belongs to no one and all are welcome to live here. Blacks, Indians, Asians, Whites, Arabs, Latino etc etc we all live in North Carolina. As do Christians, Atheists, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindu, Jews etc. No one even knows who believes in what because the religions are not divided along racial lines, except for the Jews.

Point is Palestine existed, it's Israel that never existed. Israel was created in 1947-48
The only Israel mentioned in the Bible is Jacob it's the name for a bloodline the Israelites and they had no nation. They attached themselves to one kingdom that was David's and he died he lost and that place was burned down. It never at any point encompassed all of Palestine. And even if it had. So what? At one point Rome encompassed all of Europe that doesn't mean everything belongs to Italy or Italians.

This idea of racial inheritance is childishly retarded.

[Ry]

Not true. Christians also said god gave them land. You are sitting in it. Israel is Manifest Destiny II. The first one was a far far greater crime. We're talking about the complete genocide of contenants. 20% of the whole earth's population.

[Apricot]

I love the title of this thread, it's just perfect.

[Ry]

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[Ry]

bump

[luckee1]

What an awesome thread! You guys have provided some links and background to what I was looking for. It is difficult to find out true history after having to filter through so much crap!

Mad props for the great leads!

[dicktater]

Palestine before 1948


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGBoGKPZlQE" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Dec 9, 2007

The video contains pictures of different Palestinian cities during the 1920's and 1930's, before the creation of the state of israel by the zionists in 1948.

19th Century Palestine


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Jan 17, 2008

Palestine during the late 1800's. Fifty years before the creation of israel in 1948, in which the palestinians were executed and expelled from their own villages and homes to make room for the new jewish immigrants from europe.