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Zionism is a political philosophy that claims that Palestine and Israel should be a Jewish state but by the word Jewish they mean an ethnically Jewish state. It is like Nazism only that instead of white people or Germans Christians, it is Jews (as a race [in their own imagination] and a religion) not just a religion.

Zionism trys to use religious rhetoric to justify its political/racial claims.

In reality, that is history "God" did not promise land to anyone. And the Hebrew people never made more than 6% of the population of Palestine/philistine. The story of Moses is complete fiction. There was no Moses and nobody walked through the Red Sea. Cyrus the Great set the slaves free in the Babylonian empire when he conquered it, and that included what is now Egypt at that time in 539BC.

There was no Moses and there was no Egyptian army in a foot race with the Hebrews. They adopted the Egyptian religion of three gods (a trinity)Isis Ra (the sun god) and El and thus called themselves Israelites after another mythical figure named Jacob who had a wrestling match with god and won thus being granted prosperity in the land of the Canaanites (the Babylonians) with would include a lot more than present day Israel. The people from Jacob (a bloodline) are considered Israelites or later Jews even though in scientific reality there was no Jacob and Jewish people have multiple origins as far away as Europe. To further confuse this Semitic people who married other people would have children considered to be Jewish so long as the mother was.

It really does not matter what they said Jacob said because it is fiction. It is at best a religion, and that can not be used as a basis to ethnically cleanse people the way American Indians were killed by Christians under manifest destiny.

Religion serves as the motivations for these nuts to go to war for land. above these puppets stands the military industrial complex, which always milks conflicts for profit.

Zionist believe in holding Palestine under a brutal military occupation, sealing the water for Jews and only Jews and building Jew only "settlements" on land taken by force from civilians by a professional American backed army.

Most Zionist live in America and are Christians. This is because the primary investors in the defense companies that profit from this conflict are none other than tax free Christian Churches. Thus naturally their leaders preach the Zionist bullshit of "defending Israel" from all the people tired of being murdered and starved by them.

Gods today are no more real than the gods of the past. But try saying that to 90% of the public.

Jacob and Moses are stories Adam and Even is a story it was not real. None of these people ever existed and they are not based on true people either. Hercules and Samson etc they never existed. Likewise the Sorcery and witches and unicorns in the Bible are also fake.

Zionist try to paint the picture that Israel is defending its existence form psycho Islamic genocidal nuts. In reality they are the psycho genocidal nuts who are actively taking territory, demolishing homes, and murdering people. Attacks on Israel are a reaction to the occupation not the source of it. For example Canada does not fire rockets into the US because the US is not Occupying Canada. The US could not invade Canada and Occupy it and then claim they have to maintain their occupation in order to defend the US from all the backlash such an occupation would create.

Please see this. Peace Propaganda and the Promised Land. This movie was removed from google video several times. The movie is about the Media and the coverage of the conflict. The media is just as bias as the coverage of Iraq and the lies that led up to that war.

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What I have encountered is that most everyday Americans could not care less about Israel. On that same note, everyday jews care deeply for Israel. I was once told by someone that quote " I do not like Bush all that much, but lets face it, if clinton gets in, she will not protect Israel and they will get attacked". He basically said Israel trumps every other issue, and I have a feeling that most radical Christians believe its the end of the world and that it is what the bible said so there is not much they can do about it, its God's plan. I do not follow religion very closely, reason being that we do not know exactly what has happened and two, anything in groups is a problem and control is waiting to happen. but I do believe in God and consider myself to be closest to christianity.

RealityInc wrote:What I have encountered is that most everyday Americans could not care less about Israel. On that same note, everyday jews care deeply for Israel. I was once told by someone that quote " I do not like Bush all that much, but lets face it, if clinton gets in, she will not protect Israel and they will get attacked". He basically said Israel trumps every other issue, and I have a feeling that most radical Christians believe its the end of the world and that it is what the bible said so there is not much they can do about it, its God's plan. I do not follow religion very closely, reason being that we do not know exactly what has happened and two, anything in groups is a problem and control is waiting to happen. but I do believe in God and consider myself to be closest to christianity.

Clinton stands w/Israel and said so herself. Checkout the neocon dem section.

The point being that if "the end of the world is coming" then so be it? Its stupid. Why would "god" care about a part of the planet earth? Why not some other planet with in the billions and billions of other galaxies and worlds? Those are stupid idea's. A belief in god is also retarded, but if you believe then that is your right.....do you also think it is the end of the world? You know every generation thinks its the end of the world and guess what it isnt. This generation isnt anymore special then the last.

Well I certainly do not agree with what the "Christians" may think. I pretty much think that those people are whacked. I do believe in a higher power, whether that is god, I dont know. As for the end of the world, no, I believe that is something that is used to get people into submission. I do however think the system we live in and the way of life cannot last much longer. It is just way to corrupt and way to straining on humans, whether it be in the mideast, here or in Europe. The people are getting stretched as far as they can go by there leaders.

I just updated the first post

I always get called anti-Semitic and "nazi" when I say fuck Israel. Most people just assume that if you're not with Israel you're against Jewish people in general. I'm not against Jews, anymore than I am Muslims or Christians. The simple fact is america has been so programmed into supporting Israel that powerful figures in America don't even deny it anymore, they actually milk it(see GOP debate Tuesday). It's pretty sick and disgusting. How much money do you think that we give them(I heard 2 million a day) goes right back to our politicians through AIPAC lobbyists?

oh no we give Israel over ten million a day. We give them 3 billion a year directly plus another 9 billion in "aid packages"

a billion is a thousand millions. we give them 3 thousand millions in one year of 365 days. And they get it at the start of the year so that they can gain interest on it.

I wish that video was still all in one place.