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Post by adam1 » Sun Jan 07, 2007 12:55 am

The genocide of Muslims by the Serbs was much mentioned at the time of Slobodan Milosevic's death here in the UK.
Milosevic must have had help from Zionists, otherwise it's a mystery how such psycho's can get into power and then inflict so much irreversible damage.

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Post by sangre_de_soldado » Sun Jan 07, 2007 2:12 am

british_freedom_fighter wrote:The genocide of Muslims by the Serbs was much mentioned at the time of Slobodan Milosevic's here in the UK.
Milosevic must have had help from Zionists, otherwise it's a mystery how such psycho's can get into power and then inflict so much irreversible damage.
It was mentioned well enough in America as well (not as much as in Britain though). My point is that it's a real tragedy that 250,000 people were killed until finally Clinton and the U.N did something about it. Now why is the reason that it took so long? After all the U.N and the U.S had power so superior to the Croats or Serbs it could have been stopped. The reason is simple, if they did anything it wasn't going to benefit the U.S in any way. There was no profit in it.

The only ones to act as fast as they could when this genocide happened were the mujahideen and the all local Muslim brigade in Bosnia. And now guess what? They are trying to say that the Mujahideen that actually did something to [urlhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNG-pRWx7rA]help are terrorists.[/url]
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Post by adam1 » Sun Jan 07, 2007 11:18 am

sangre_de_soldado wrote:
british_freedom_fighter wrote:The genocide of Muslims by the Serbs was much mentioned at the time of Slobodan Milosevic's here in the UK.
Milosevic must have had help from Zionists, otherwise it's a mystery how such psycho's can get into power and then inflict so much irreversible damage.
It was mentioned well enough in America as well (not as much as in Britain though). My point is that it's a real tragedy that 250,000 people were killed until finally Clinton and the U.N did something about it. Now why is the reason that it took so long? After all the U.N and the U.S had power so superior to the Croats or Serbs it could have been stopped. The reason is simple, if they did anything it wasn't going to benefit the U.S in any way. There was no profit in it.

The only ones to act as fast as they could when this genocide happened were the mujahideen and the all local Muslim brigade in Bosnia. And now guess what? They are trying to say that the Mujahideen that actually did something to [urlhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNG-pRWx7rA]help are terrorists.[/url]
Watched the video, it's funny how they can say "Oh they beheaded people" because on Murdoch newsmedia, beheading has becomesynonymous with Muslims and people believe it. *sigh*

Also.. do you think the same will be for Sudan? Where no one acts until the required damage has been done?

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Post by sangre_de_soldado » Mon Jan 08, 2007 12:29 am

british_freedom_fighter wrote: Watched the video, it's funny how they can say "Oh they beheaded people" because on Murdoch newsmedia, beheading has becomesynonymous with Muslims and people believe it. *sigh*

Also.. do you think the same will be for Sudan? Where no one acts until the required damage has been done?
Definately.

Everyone has to learn that the American government doesn't give a crap about anyone that won't benefit them in any way economically. No more relying on the U.N, NATO, or America, the countries all need to unify and form a new uncorrupt country that isn't based on Greed (Capitalism).
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Post by Ry » Mon Feb 05, 2007 10:04 pm

Forbe list in 2005

From Russian Forbes, May 2005. Wealth in 1,000,000,000 (billion) USD.

1 Roman Abramovich 18.2 (Роман Абрамович, Sold Sibneft Oil)
2 Vladimir Lisin 7.0 (Владимир Лисин, Novolipetsk Steel)
3 Viktor Vekselberg 6.1 (Виктор Вексельберг, petroleum, colour metals)
4 Oleg Deripaska 5.8 (Олег Дерипаска, Rusal aluminium) Rusal is set to merge with Saul Aprip 2007 and the mineral rights are owned by Glencore the company founded by Marc Rich (the Mossad agent)Oleg also is now worth 14 Billion tying him with Roman Abramovich who had spent quite a bit of his money.
5 Mikhail Fridman 5.8 (Alfa Group) CFR
6Vladimir Yevtushenkov 5.1 (Владимир Евтушенков, Sistema telecommunications, finance, real estate)
7 Alexei Mordashov 5.1 (Алексей Мордашов, black metallurgy)
8 Vladimir Potanin 4.7 (Владимир Потанин, Norilsk nickel)
9 Mikhail Prokhorov 4.7 (Михаил Прохоров, Norilsk nickel)
10 Vagit Alekperov 4.1 (Вагит Алекперов, LUKoil petroleum)
11 Viktor Rashnikov 3.6 (Виктор Рашников, black metallurgy)
12 German Khan 3.5 (Герман Хан, petroleum, finances, telecom)
13 Boris Ivanishvili 3.0 (Борис Иванишвили, metellurgy, finances)
14 Alexander Abramov 2.9 (Александр Абрамов, Evraz Group steel)
15 Aleksei Kuzmichev 2.7 (Алексей Кузьмичев, petroleum, finances, telecom)
16 Suleiman Kerimov 2.6 (Сулейман Керимов, investor)
17 Vladimir Bogdanov 2.3 (Владимир Богданов, petroleum (Surgutneftegaz))
18 Iskander Makhmudov 2.2 (Искандер Махмудов, colour metals)
19 Nickolay Tsvetkov 2.2 (Николай Цветков, petroleum, finances)
20 Alisher Usmanov 2.0 (Алишер Усманов, black metallurgy)
21 Mikhail Khodorkovsky 2.0 (Михаил Ходорковский, Yukos petroleum)

Mikhail Khodorkovsky was thrown in jail and his 15 plus billion dropped to 2 billion.

Rustam Tariko 1.9, Russian Standard vodka and banking
Boris Berezovsky 0.73 (Борис Березовский) He was forced to flee Russia as well. He fled to London and changed his name to Platon Elenin. He used to run the Meida in Russia and now he is a business parnter with Neil Bush. Paul Klebnikov wrotes a book exsposing Boris called the Godfather of the Kremlin and he became the editor of Forbes' Russian edition which was launched in April 2004. He was murdered in Moscow July 9th 2004. New hearings for the murderers who were found not guilty a decision overturned by the Russian Supreme court, The new hearings are scheduled to start on February 15, 2007.

Vladimir Gusinsky 0.35 (Владимир Гусинский, MediaMost) forced to flee Russia
Anatoly Chubais (Анатолий Чубайс, Unified Energy System)
Arcadi Gaydamak 3.47.
Shalva Chigirinsky, Sibir Energy
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Post by Ry » Mon Feb 05, 2007 10:20 pm

Russian tycoon may face new charges
MOSCOW --Russia's top prosecutor said new money laundering charges would be filed against former executives of the bankrupt oil company OAO Yukos, including its jailed founder and former top executive Mikhail Khodorkovsky, a spokesman said on Tuesday

Prosecutors to file new charges against jailed Russian tycoon Khodorkovsky, lawyer says
MOSCOW: Russian prosecutors will file new charges against jailed tycoon Mikhail Khodorkovsky on Monday, his lawyer said, raising the prospect of years more in prison for the Kremlin opponent who was once Russia's richest man.

Yuri Schmidt said that prosecutors had instructed Khodorkovsky's legal team to travel to the Siberian city of Chita to be present for the formal indictment Monday.

Khodorkovsky, founder of the now bankrupt oil giant OAO Yukos, has been serving an eight-year sentence on fraud and tax evasion charges in a Siberian prison camp near the Chinese border.

He and his business partner, Platon Lebedev, were moved to a detention center in the regional capital, Chita, in December, for questioning.

Russia's top prosecutor last month said new money laundering charges would be filed against Khodorkovsky and other former Yukos executives.
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Prosecutors to file new charges against jailed Russian tycoon (Mikhail Khodorkovsky)
Moscow, Feb 03: Russian prosecutors will file new charges against jailed tycoon Mikhail Khodorkovsky on Monday, his lawyer said, raising the prospect of years more in prison for the Kremlin opponent who was once Russia's richest man.

Yuri Schmidt said that prosecutors had instructed Khodorkovsky's legal team to travel to the Siberian city of Chita to be present for the formal indictment Monday.

Khodorkovsky, founder of the now bankrupt oil giant Oao Yukos, has been serving an eight-year sentence on fraud and tax evasion charges in a Siberian prison camp near the Chinese border.

He and his business partner, Platon Lebedev, were moved to a detention centre in the regional capital, Chita, in December, for questioning.

Russia's top prosecutor last month said new money laundering charges would be filed against Khodorkovsky and other former Yukos executives.

The tycoon could face up to 15 years for money laundering. Under Russian law, prison terms on separate charges are not usually served consecutively; convicts are jailed for whichever is the longest sentence.

Khodorkovsky has been in detention since October 2003 and could be eligible for parole later this year.

The lawyer branded the new case as politically motivated. "The Kremlin will determine (the outcome) and the court will implement its decision," Schmidt said.

Prosecutors have not commented on the substance of the new charges. According to Schmidt, they allege Khodorkovsky was involved in laundering oil revenues defrauded from Yukos through his open Russia foundation

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Post by general hoke » Wed Aug 08, 2007 9:52 pm

Ok, one thing we are forgetting is the Russian Mob. Good of all sorts from orange juice to cars were smuggled in at an alarming rate. These smugglers were aided by the American CIA I'm told but I have not seen the proof. Anyway, all of the smuggled goods made Russian buy less government goods and helped deprive the gov of money. However, once communism ended these guys kept smuggling in goods only now it was guns and drugs since the other stuff could be bought freely. The oil, banks etc were gobbled up by these zionist a-holes but whats new.

Here is the key. Remember when Russia went to war against Afgahnastan? Boy that was expensive and who bank rolled it at intrest? who supported the taliban? The US. I don't claim to know it all and I am sure someone can answer this: Is Russia helping Iran get weaponds? not the Russian gov but the Russian mob who really did their country a service

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Post by Ry » Wed Aug 08, 2007 11:48 pm

Russia as in the government is selling weapons to Syria and Iran. Putin is very different from Yeltsin but remember that the oligarchs came in while Yeltsin was hospitalized for a year and Yegor Gaidar the prime minister took charge and "privitzed" Russia by selling off the state run assets to his Zionist buddies who became the Russian Oligarch sometimes called the mafia. A keep middle man was Marc Rich a Mossad agent who was pardoned by Clinton and used Lewis Libby as his lawyer. He traded illegally with Iran guying up oil while they were desperate because of an embargo against them and a war with Iraq which they were losing at first. He traded weapons for oil and he got a cheap price because he was the only buyer. He then made even more money by selling the oil to the US companies who desperately needed it and was facing a shortage. But he jacked up the prices because he was the only seller. With that illegal money he made trading with a US enemy who he exploited and selling with his monopoly he set up the Glencore corporation which then went to Gaidar and bought up Russian mineral asests, mines, metals, oil etc. He got it for pennies on the dollar. Gaidar a Zionist sold everything off to his Zionist peers because he did not give a damn about Russia or Russian people, he was handing over everything to these Israeli criminals and he kept plenty as well.
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Post by Ed » Fri Sep 28, 2007 7:40 am

Just wanted to add that interestingly Alisher Usmanov who is on your list of Russian oligarchs, has just increased his share in Arsenal FC - a British football club - http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7017710.stm . This is interesting because, as you may or may not know already, the king of Russian oligarchs Roman Abramovich (at the top of that list) a few years ago became owner of Chelsea FC (I have a topic posted in the UK section about how he recently got rid of his star manager and replaced him with an unkown Israeli coach. I'm not suggesting anything, but since we know Abramovich is jewish and probably Zionist, you might like to know Usmanov's Arsenal is a Jewish club . I don't know much about Alisher Usmanov, but there were blogs on the net about his corruption and criminality in his past, and the blogs were threatened by Usmanov's legal team, and forced to close. Direct quote from wikipedia:
On 2 September 2007, Craig Murray, the former British ambassador to Uzbekistan, referred to Alisher Usmanov's conviction for various crimes – of fraud, corruption and theft of state property – in the former USSR, for which he had been jailed for six years during the 1980s, as well as making further allegations of criminal activity.[4] Usmanov's lawyers claim he was a political prisoner pardoned under Mikhail Gorbachev's administration,[4] though Murray claims the pardon was actually the work of Uzbek President Islom Karimov on the instructions of Uzbek power broker and alleged drug trafficker Gafur Rakhimov. [18] In Murray's words: "He was in no sense a political prisoner, but a gangster and racketeer who rightly did six years in jail."[19] The article was subsequently removed by Murray's web host under pressure from Usmanov's legal team,[19] who also contacted independent Arsenal blogs and websites warning them to remove any references to Murray's allegations, and any reproduction of Craig Murray's weblog posting.[4]

The move to remove Murray's posting led to other blogs reproducing the article. On 20 September 2007, Bloggerheads.com, the weblog of Tim Ireland was taken down for reproducing Murray's article. The removal of the host server also caused the loss of other blogs belonging to the MP Boris Johnson, councillor Bob Piper and Clive Summerfield – none of which themselves had reproduced the article.[20] However, this move by Usmanov to suppress discussion of his past has only served to unify various blogs against him.[20]

On 25 September 2007 Clive Summerfield and Councillor Bob Piper were interviewed on BBC Radio 5 Live about the controversy.
You can listen here to the discussion about Usmanov on BBC radio: http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/podcasts/fiv ... 5-0445.mp3

I would have to look into this more, but something is up with these russian billionaires taking over English football. It's not just them - the ex-Thai Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra is now owner of Manchester City, another top English football team. This guy was part of the Carlyle Group!! The amount of money that has come into English football in recent years is really getting ridiculous. Not only are oligrachs, corrupt politicans and zionists taking over our media and everything else, they'vre taking our sports now! these are some interesting observations I have made and I haven't read anyone else making these types of connections. anyone else know anything more about these guys or their connections, or any other info?
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