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Monumental Effort Launched by West to Silence French Comic

Post by Rio » Sat Jan 11, 2014 8:47 pm



The problem with French comedian and social critic Dieudonné presents a very big problem with the political Jewish Zionist establishment in France and the Western world.

A herculean effort is being launched by socialist and politically correct leftists to silence him and to prevent him from making money, but they run the risk of making a martyr out of Dieudonné in which the modern world hasn't seen in a long time.

In addition, the timing for the controversy is rather interesting as François Hollande is currently embroiled in a scandal over allegedly having a mistress, as well as very low approval ratings.


A performance by Dieudonne M'bala M'bala in Nantes was blocked by France's highest court late on Thursday night, overturning a local judge's ruling that the show should be allowed to go ahead.

The move was hailed as a victory over anti-Semitism by the French government, with Manuel Valls, the interior minister, stating "the law must be able to act".

He said that the government would now attempt to stop his material circulating online.


"We cannot tolerate hatred of others, racism, anti-Semitism or holocaust denial," Mr Valls said. "That is not France and the highest (administrative) court in the land has said as much and has said it clearly. This is a victory for the Republic."

That viewed was echoed by the head of the European Jewish Congress who hailed the ruling as "a triumph for the values of democracy".

"To remove a platform for hate and a stage for racism is in the best interests of the state and its citizens," said Dr Moshe Kantor in a statement.

However, the comedian has thousands of supporters – both the people who rallied outside the theatre after the last minute cancellation of his show, thousands more of online sympathisers and those who argue that muzzling him is a breach of freedom of speech.

Le Figaro described Mr Valls's success in having the show cancelled as a "fragile victory".

Many young people were openly brandishing Dieudonne's signature "Quenelle" gesture, which has been condemned as anti-Semitic. Nicolas Anelka, the West Bromich Albion footballer was criticised for making the gesture as part of a goal celebration last month.

Interpreted as a reverse version of the Nazi salute, two French soldiers were sanctioned by the army after performing the salute in front of a synagogue in Paris.

However, the 47-year-old comedian has said the "Quenelle" is simply an "up yours" sign to the French establishment.

Dieudonne's lawyers have cited a violation of the comedian's freedom of expression, and the Human Rights League, a French non-governmental organisation, has warned that the ban could "rally support for Dieudonne for those who consider themselves oppressed".

The comedian has been fined several times for "hate speech" as well as an investigation that he owes tax authorities more than 800,000 euros. His show, entitled The Wall, has been criticised for mocking victims of the Holocaust.
Dieudonné: was François Hollande right to support a ban?

Should controversial comedian Dieudonné M'bala M'bala, the man behind the quenelle gesture, be silenced by the law – or by sharper arguments? Andrew Hussey and Padraig Reidy (whom both label Dieudonné a racist, bigot, holocaust denier etc) debate France's thorniest issue.
Andrew Hussey, dean of the University of London Institute in Paris:

I suppose my starting point has to be that there is no doubt that Dieudonné is not so much a comedian but, rather, an attention-seeking racist and an antisemite. He certainly isn't funny any more, if he ever was. He is, however, an expert in provocation, and that's what his latest acts and statements, including the famous "quenelle", are all about. More to the point, what he is really doing is testing the limits of French law – specifically the Loi Gayssot of 1990, the so-called loi anti-négationniste, which, among other things, effectively makes Holocaust denial (négationnisme in French) a crime.
Padraig Reidy, senior writer at Index on Censorship:

I'm glad neither of us is going to attempt to describe Dieudonné as anything other than what he is – a rabble-rousing bigot. Too often in discussions on free speech issues, people will attempt to downplay or deflect attention from the ugly facts, or attempt to rationalise other people's bigotry. I hope I don't fall into that trap.

I don't really doubt that François Hollande's support for municipal bans of Dieudonné's performances is well-meaning. A lot of modern censorious laws are conceived as protection rather than punishment. But you've pointed out the problem with this yourself. Dieudonné and his friends already see themselves as "anti-establishment" and have justified the quenelle salute that has led to this controversy as a gesture against the powers that be. As Mark Gardner of Britain's Community Security Trust has written, this leads to an easy conflation between "the establishment" and old-fashioned antisemitic ideas about "Jewish power", "Jewish capitalism" and more. Dieudonné already has convictions for antisemitism, but it seems to have done little to dent his standing among fans, and may even have enhanced his standing as a rebel. I wonder if the well-meaning law has in fact done more harm than good.
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Post by R4F1 » Sat Jan 11, 2014 10:59 pm

Europe does not have freedom of speech, nor does it have a real Bill of Rights (comparable to the US). The freedom people experience is only because the states lets it so. Unlike the US, where there is supposed to be guaranteed freedoms, but the state is trying to negate it little by little.

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Post by Rio » Mon Jan 13, 2014 11:15 am

R4F1 wrote:Europe does not have freedom of speech, nor does it have a real Bill of Rights (comparable to the US). The freedom people experience is only because the states lets it so. Unlike the US, where there is supposed to be guaranteed freedoms, but the state is trying to negate it little by little.
The French are different, and their hate speech laws are don't seem to have as much teeth as say Germany. Remember, Robert Faurisson is still walking around free and whatnot.

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Post by Doronjo » Tue Jan 14, 2014 3:44 am

This thing started a long time ago, I think over 10 years ago. Dieudonne is a really funny guy, and his sketches included all groups. But all hell broke loose with one sketch; interestingly, I can no longer find that video. If I remember correctly, at one point he was playing the part of an Israeli settler pointing out to a Palestinian the relevant text from his holy book, stating that the land belonged to him.

What I really like about Dieudonne is that unlike most (all?) other entertainers, instead of bowing to the zionist cunts attacking him, he fights back.

Here is a nice video where he responds (in French) to Manuel Valls (French Interior Minister):
"When people learn to identify the source and nature of these influences swirling around them, it is sufficient. Let the American people once understand that it is not natural degeneracy but calculated subversion that inflicts us, and they are safe. The explanation is the cure." -- Henry Ford, 1922

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Post by Doronjo » Tue Jan 21, 2014 5:29 am

Here is a good video providing all the history behind the Dieudonne affair; its in French though.



At 9 min, the sketch that initially started the attacks. He was making fun of all religions, but only when he played an Israeli settler did the attacks start.

BTW, he is getting a lot of support. Lots of cops and military people are being photographed doing the Quenelle, a big up-yours (up to the shoulder) to the establishment.
"When people learn to identify the source and nature of these influences swirling around them, it is sufficient. Let the American people once understand that it is not natural degeneracy but calculated subversion that inflicts us, and they are safe. The explanation is the cure." -- Henry Ford, 1922

Committee For Open Debate on the Holocaust: http://www.codoh.com/index.shtml
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Post by Rio » Tue Jan 21, 2014 3:59 pm

Nice pic. I'm trying to plan taking a few pics of myself around the city. The quenelle seems exciting to a lot of people. As much as a simple gesture won't be able to change anything on it's own, I seems to be such a powerful tool in the sense that it's street level and non-violent, and has to scare and infuriate the whatever-you-want-to-call-them.

By the way I was searching for some mp3s for a long drive I had to do recently and I came across some Tarpley mp3s talking about Snowden. He seems to think the whole thing is a charade and for the most part I agree with him. I think Snowden is just Wikileaks 2.0, but with some mildly anti-Israel stuff in it because Wikileaks seemed to be so pro-Zionist.

But Tarpley also thinks that Dieudonné is part some concerted effort to push comedians to the front of a controlled opposition movement. These comedians include Dieudonné', Italy's Beppe Grillo, Russel Brand and Howard Stern/Jesse Ventura. I think he is bullshit on that though, because in the mp3 Tarpley won't even address anything that Dieudonné is talking about, that he cleverly denies the holocaust, regularly rips to shred the Jewish Zionist political establishment and all these kids doing the quenelle in front of these Zionist warmongers like Bernard-Henri Lévy.
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Post by R4F1 » Tue Jan 21, 2014 6:37 pm

Something tells me the Japanese he was doing the interview/lecture in front of, were leftists. Though I could be wrong. If that were indeed the case, what was it like when he was blatantly criticizing the Western Left (Progressives)?... I mean, its kinda hard to find Keffiyeh-wearing Palestine-sympathizers who aren't leftists, but I'd be pleasantly surprised if they really weren't such.

Rio wrote: By the way I was searching for some mp3s for a long drive I had to do recently and I came across some Tarpley mp3s talking about Snowden. He seems to think the whole thing is a charade and for the most part I agree with him. I think Snowden is just Wikileaks 2.0, but with some mildly anti-Israel stuff in it because Wikileaks seemed to be so pro-Zionist.

But Tarpley also thinks that Dieudonné is part some concerted effort to push comedians to the front of a controlled opposition movement. These comedians include Dieudonné', Italy's Beppe Grillo, Russel Brand and Howard Stern/Jesse Ventura. I think he is bullshit on that though, because in the mp3 Tarpley won't even address anything that Dieudonné is talking about, that he cleverly denies the holocaust, regularly rips to shred the Jewish Zionist political establishment and all these kids doing the quenelle in front of these Zionist warmongers like Bernard-Henri Lévy.
Fuck Tarpley, that piece of shit. That guy calls literally EVERYONE controlled-opposition. Assange, Snowden, Ron Paul, Rand Paul.

You know what he was saying when the Snowden leaks came out? That he was a "limited hangout", and that there is a rogue cell inside the Military who are trying to push Obama into the Syrian war. And that maybe Snowden/others work for them, and that Benghazi-gate was actually orchestrated by this group to screw Obama. And since then, he's actually been supporting Obama, saying how he's resisting these efforts and making sure there's no Syrian invasion, and that the ouster of Petraeus was an organized move by Obama to take action in resisting this rogue military cell. That Petreaus' ouster is what has especially angered this supposed cell and they're hellbent on screwing Obama now.

Even Alex Jones has stopped bringing him on. Even he knows this blatant scapegoating and witch-hunting by Tarpley, especially his slander against the Pauls, libertarianism, and all whistleblowers is just too fucking nuts to be true.

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