New info on the Hess flight of 1941

[Axe Kick]

http://www.upi.com/Top_News/World-News/ ... 306734600/

Some newfound documents show that Rudolf Hess may have made his flight to England (to negotiate peace) with the blessing of Hitler. The official account is that he was deranged and acted alone.

Again, this post isn't to say that Hitler is now a good guy. Its just one more piece of evidence that shows there have been numerous lies about the Germans to make them seem more evil than they were so we can justify all of our post WWII wars by claiming everyone and their mama is the 'new Hitler.'

Also, I firmly believe that Hess was killed in Spandau prison. I cannot believe, that at 93, this guy strangled himself to death the day before he was to be released. I believe that almost as much as I do the most recent Bin Laden killing narrative...

Ry, what's your take on this?

[Drew J]

If you want the real truth about Hoess and his peace mission to Britain, read Greg Hallett's HITLER WAS A BRITISH AGENT. Or read a quick summary here.

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=76411.0

[Axe Kick]

If you want the real truth about Hoess and his peace mission to Britain, read Greg Hallett's HITLER WAS A BRITISH AGENT. Or read a quick summary here.

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=76411.0

I'll check it out. But I have to respectfully disagree at the moment. The whole Hitler as a Rothschild agent reeks of disinfo to me. Hitler, to me, was nothing more than a German Nationalist with an Anglo-phile streak. I think some of his moves get misconstrued as being what a Rothschild agent would do.

[Axe Kick]

Point well taken.

Its hard to call out lies on the Nazi's because the regime has been so discredited and it is extremely taboo. I just want people to see WWII for what it was, largely bad vs bad rather than the good vs. bad stuff we get in the official history. At least that's my take.

[Ry]

Hess was not deranged and Hitler did not want war with Britian not yet anyway. In his book Mein Kampf Hitler went over the conundrum that he would have to side with either Britian or Russia to win but that he could not fight both and he wasn't worried about anyone else. He tried and tried for England but in the end teamed with Russia and then mid success turned his back on them. But I am pretty sure Hess did not get the OK from Hitler. Hess would have said so. There was a growing faction under Ramul that was against Hitler and perhapse Hess had their backing and they said he was just deranged so as not to out them. The German faction tried to assasiante Hitler. There was also at that point no real way for peace. But the Brits drugged him and then killed him. That's what he gets for trying to stop the war.

Hitler was certainly not a rothschild. For one he abolished the central bank in Germany. Thats how he took a country waiting in breadlines into an economic powerhouse. Ask your teachers how Hitler grew the economy so quicklly they'll tell you military spending well we all know thats backwards and does not work. He abolished the central bank. Hitler wrote more propganda about the evils of communism and international finance cpitalism than he did the jews who he saw as leaders in both ills.

If you read his own words he blames the munitians strike for causing a german defeat in WWI a war they were winning. And he blamed that on poor propaganda at home which he blamed on jewish papers, and banks. He railed on and on about the evils of international finance capitalism more than he did on the goodness of german blood. Racism was part of his philosophy but his real anger was at how the economic systems of the day had raped Germany.

[Drew J]

Hitler was certainly not a rothschild.

Walter Langer, Clifford Shack (1), etc say otherwise and have advanced compelling arguments for it.

For one he abolished the central bank in Germany. Thats how he took a country waiting in breadlines into an economic powerhouse.

Um, no one who thinks like I do disputes this. But this doesn't prove the negative of yours. Hitler was allowed to do this by the same Rothschild-Rockefeller bankers who broke Germany the first time around after the first world war. Read Anthony Sutton's book WALL STREET AND THE RISE OF HITLER. Hitler closed down a lot of masonic lodges too. Does that mean he was anti Mason and anti occult? No. It means he didn't want competition.

http://okkulte-nazis.blogspot.com/2011/ ... ny_24.html

[Ry]

No Drew your being an idiot. One its not a negative. Hitler is not a Rothchild unless shown otherwise. That he clearly hated central banking and what he called the Jewish lies of communism and international finance capitalism his whole life. This is backed up not only by his wrtitings and speeches but his actions. You can't just assume he is a rothschild until that is disproved because that doesn't exist. It is like saying prove his mustach was fake I dont have to prove it was real, you have to prove it was fake. It was real thats proven by every fact known about him. You are making an outrageous claim that the guy who rounded up and killed bankers and tried to push every jew out of gernmeny didnt really fel that way but only did it to further the interest of the rothschilds. One the rothchilds no longer controlled europe secondly the german nearly won that war, thirdly i think your crazy. Hitler hated jews, he did, there is no way around it and he associated them with a filthy paracitical race that never worked but took money from other via usury and speculation. He said they had a genetic disposition to lie. He had them placed into labor camps and he killed thousands of them. He clearly hated communism as well.

Saying oh well they just allowed him to do that. Bullshit. They did let him do anything. The German army was not allowed anything they took it. Germany had had lands effectively stolen form them by the allies and was in a state of hyper inflation. Hitler killed the banksters and restored Germany to economic prosperity but he didn't stop there he went about a purge of ethnic cleansing and invaded bordering nations. That did them in
That site you linked to is so weak. It say well hitlers roomate sypposedly said hitler never read a book etc and calls him a dunce thus they take from that assumption that his best selling book was ghost written by a jesuit preist. lol. HIter you can hate him but he was not a dunce. He was clearly intelligent albeit psychotic. In his speeches alone you can tell he kows what he is talking about and he wrote his own book as its what he is saying. You are basing hear say of what his former roomate might have said aginst mountains of evidence that show otherwise and the jesuit preist bullshut is thrown in their right out of their asses.


give up on this black pope bullshit. Sure members of the church met with Hitler. So what he was the elected leader of Germany a lot of peopel met him. they held the olympics even. He met everyone. His grand father was alos not a rothchild. And his Grandmother did not work for a Jewish family in Graz since Jews had already been driven out of there and were not allowed to return until 1856 a good 20 years or so after his grandfather had been born. Try reading a book instead of just the internet.

also you might want to know
He did not fake his death and flee to argintina or the caribbean
he did not get rejected from art school by a jew
he did not have one testicle
he did not gas jews or thrown them in ovens

all of those things are lies.
ps the moon is not made of cheese.

[Doronjo]

Hitler killed the banksters and restored Germany to economic prosperity...

Yep, and we certainly can't have people look there.

I get the feeling everything has been thrown at Hitler to distract from that very important fact. I realized a decade ago that the holocaust was a hoax, and have ever since had a hard time making up my mind about Hitler, but I am certain he is not the monster he has been made out to be.

But I am pretty sure Hess did not get the OK from Hitler. Hess would have said so.

Even after you remove the holocaust, its sometimes hard to figure out what is true from the remaining "facts"; but I don't buy the Nazi occult stuff.

But I am pretty sure Hess did not get the OK from Hitler. Hess would have said so.

You could be right, but I had the impression that since his arrest, Hess was always in solitary confinement; and was very closely guarded whenever he had visitors. Maybe he could not say anything.


Now, about the moon...

[Axe Kick]

Ry, I agree with everything you've posted on this except for Hitler knowing of the Hess flight.

My opinion of why Hess or Hitler could not say this was their plan all along was because by doing so they would tip off Russia of their impending attack. If Germany was serious about peace with England, Stalin would know a German attack was soon to happen. I think, as long as Germany was involved with England, Stalin felt that the Germans wouldn't dare break the Non-Aggression pact and open a two-front war.

[Colbyor]

why did they fire bomb dresden? fuck hitler! they slaughtered the people of germany, is that because hitler abolished the central bank? is that what we have to look foreward to by ending the fed? they better not make ron paul hitler i'll be super pissed off