Ahmadinejad under fire for opposing veil crackdown
Ahmadinejad under fire for opposing veil crackdown
EHRAN — Iran's President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad came under fire from other hardliners on Wednesday for opposing a social crackdown targeting dress and behaviour, mainly of women.
In a televised interview at the weekend, Ahmadinejad said that he was "strongly against such actions. It is impossible for such actions to be successful."
A senior hardline cleric responded by accusing Ahmadinejad of undermining efforts to fight "corruption."
"The president in his interview did not appreciate the sacred wave which advocates veiling and chastity and he belittled it," Ahmad Khatami said in comments carried by the moderate Shargh newspaper on Wednesday.
By law, women in Iran must be covered from head to foot and social interaction is banned between unrelated men and women.
The head of parliament's clerical faction, Mohammad Taghi Rahbar, also interpreted Ahmadinejad's comments as a "green light to immodest dressing."
"Those who voted for you were the fully veiled people. The badly veiled 'greens' did not vote for you, so you'd better consider what pleases God is not pleasing a number of corrupt" people, Shargh quoted Rahbar as saying.
The Green Movement of opposition leader Mir Hossein Mousavi won over Iran's urban youth by pledging more social freedom in last year's election.
Iran's morality police have returned to the streets in recent weeks, confiscating cars whose male drivers are seen to be harassing women, local media have said, without clarifying what amounts to harassment.
The reports say the crackdown has become a major issue for Iran's predominantly young population, with police or hardline militiamen stopping cars with young men or women inside to question their relationship.
They say the Islamic dress code for women is also being more strictly enforced.
But leading conservative lawmaker Ali Motahari noted Ahmadinejad's "interior ministry declared its preparedness for this initiative... and the president undermines his own work by such comments," Shargh reported.
"If the president insists on his stance, the parliament will surely respond," warned Motahari, who is a vocal critic of Ahmadinejad.
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In a televised interview at the weekend, Ahmadinejad said that he was "strongly against such actions. It is impossible for such actions to be successful."
A senior hardline cleric responded by accusing Ahmadinejad of undermining efforts to fight "corruption."
"The president in his interview did not appreciate the sacred wave which advocates veiling and chastity and he belittled it," Ahmad Khatami said in comments carried by the moderate Shargh newspaper on Wednesday.
By law, women in Iran must be covered from head to foot and social interaction is banned between unrelated men and women.
The head of parliament's clerical faction, Mohammad Taghi Rahbar, also interpreted Ahmadinejad's comments as a "green light to immodest dressing."
"Those who voted for you were the fully veiled people. The badly veiled 'greens' did not vote for you, so you'd better consider what pleases God is not pleasing a number of corrupt" people, Shargh quoted Rahbar as saying.
The Green Movement of opposition leader Mir Hossein Mousavi won over Iran's urban youth by pledging more social freedom in last year's election.
Iran's morality police have returned to the streets in recent weeks, confiscating cars whose male drivers are seen to be harassing women, local media have said, without clarifying what amounts to harassment.
The reports say the crackdown has become a major issue for Iran's predominantly young population, with police or hardline militiamen stopping cars with young men or women inside to question their relationship.
They say the Islamic dress code for women is also being more strictly enforced.
But leading conservative lawmaker Ali Motahari noted Ahmadinejad's "interior ministry declared its preparedness for this initiative... and the president undermines his own work by such comments," Shargh reported.
"If the president insists on his stance, the parliament will surely respond," warned Motahari, who is a vocal critic of Ahmadinejad.
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Re: Ahmadinejad under fire for opposing veil crackdown
Good for him because Islamic law is retarded anyway. If a woman wants to wear a veil then so be it but if she doesn't then she shouldn't have to do it.
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religion of peace 

"Whenever any form of government becomes destructive of ... [Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness], it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government." –Thomas Jefferson
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LOL @ Dissent.
The "veil" is supposed to be a choice.
The "veil" is supposed to be a choice.
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Re: Ahmadinejad under fire for opposing veil crackdown
Yea technically speaking it is...but there never was a clause in their scriptures that spoke against their neighbors harrassing them until they 'chose' to wear it. That plus the sight of our local imam being caught red-handed picking up girls at the food stamp office for sex is what started me on the road to becoming an atheist....not to mention the fact that this very same imam pushed for them to kick me from the community for me wearing too much make-up(i only wear eyeliner) and for wearing nail polish in the mussalah.
They finally booted me for being too involved in radical Palestinian politics.
Now I'm blacklisted as a 'kafir'.
They finally booted me for being too involved in radical Palestinian politics.
Now I'm blacklisted as a 'kafir'.


Israel is afraid Hamas will start firing delicious baked goods over the wall ... and that these will go straight to Israel's thighs.
Re: Ahmadinejad under fire for opposing veil crackdown
Aw Inti, I can't believe you would become atheist because of what someone else did. True belief comes from within.
"Be not defeated by the rain" - Kenji Miyazawa
"Courage is not the absence of fear, but rather the judgment that something else is more important than fear." - Ambrose Redmoon
"Listen to your heart. Because, wherever your heart is, that is where you'll find your treasure." - Paulo Coelho
"Courage is not the absence of fear, but rather the judgment that something else is more important than fear." - Ambrose Redmoon
"Listen to your heart. Because, wherever your heart is, that is where you'll find your treasure." - Paulo Coelho
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Intifadah, I thought you were muslim?
however, your view of reality has to be harmony with reality or its worthless.
side note: Apricot, you know I only have mad love for you but that avatar makes me have an epileptic seizure and I dont even have epilepsy.
for sure!True belief comes from within.
however, your view of reality has to be harmony with reality or its worthless.
side note: Apricot, you know I only have mad love for you but that avatar makes me have an epileptic seizure and I dont even have epilepsy.
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Agree.Phys wrote:for sure!True belief comes from within.
however, your view of reality has to be harmony with reality or its worthless.
lulz, you can't look at it for very long i know.Phys wrote:side note: Apricot, you know I only have mad love for you but that avatar makes me have an epileptic seizure and I dont even have epilepsy.
Ima change it, or something, when I have time, prolly not till after the weekend tho. Srry. ;D
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"Listen to your heart. Because, wherever your heart is, that is where you'll find your treasure." - Paulo Coelho
"Courage is not the absence of fear, but rather the judgment that something else is more important than fear." - Ambrose Redmoon
"Listen to your heart. Because, wherever your heart is, that is where you'll find your treasure." - Paulo Coelho
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true belief bah humbug.
I don't have to believe. I KNOW religion is bullshit just as strongly as I know Elves and unicorns are fiction. It's not a hard question at all. you read the text for pick a relgion it doesn't really matter which one and it's laughably stupid.
Even if it was something useful it wouldn't make it true. And you don't need a god to teach you that commonsense things like murdering and stealing from people is wrong. Of course the US STILL hasn't learned that lesson despite the congress and president being 100% theist and elected by majority monotheists.
When it gets into what you can wear or eat its ridiculous. Like the creator of the entire universe gives a damn if you eat bacon or show your face, legs or whatever. Those are man's rules in books written by men. If there is a god, and there is not, but were one to exist it wouldn't have a guide anything even remotely like the Qurran or Bible, Torrah, etc.
I don't have to believe. I KNOW religion is bullshit just as strongly as I know Elves and unicorns are fiction. It's not a hard question at all. you read the text for pick a relgion it doesn't really matter which one and it's laughably stupid.
Even if it was something useful it wouldn't make it true. And you don't need a god to teach you that commonsense things like murdering and stealing from people is wrong. Of course the US STILL hasn't learned that lesson despite the congress and president being 100% theist and elected by majority monotheists.
When it gets into what you can wear or eat its ridiculous. Like the creator of the entire universe gives a damn if you eat bacon or show your face, legs or whatever. Those are man's rules in books written by men. If there is a god, and there is not, but were one to exist it wouldn't have a guide anything even remotely like the Qurran or Bible, Torrah, etc.
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Re: Ahmadinejad under fire for opposing veil crackdown
From what I'm gathering from everyone on this site is that there should be no rules in life. If someone wants to run a red light, they should free to do so, because that's their freedom, regardless if it may kill others and increase insurance rates and the number of people in emergency rooms and medical insurance and taxes for those paying for those without insurance and so on and so on.
If someone wants to kill another, they should have that freedom, because who cares if we remove one less person from the planet. It's better for the ecosystem. It doesn't matter if that person had to support a family and was a beneficial part of society.
There is no law in the Qur'an that does not benefit individuals and society as a whole. Simple minded people look at the tiny details, yet fail to look at the big picture. The family structure is so important in the Qur'an, that even a divorced women has to wait 3 months before marrying to make sure that she isn't pregnant with her previous husband, to ensure that the lineage of each person continues.
Atheists, who only look at life as a two dimensional structure, fail to identify the wisdom in Islamic laws.
You need to step back and look outside of the triangle.
If someone wants to kill another, they should have that freedom, because who cares if we remove one less person from the planet. It's better for the ecosystem. It doesn't matter if that person had to support a family and was a beneficial part of society.
There is no law in the Qur'an that does not benefit individuals and society as a whole. Simple minded people look at the tiny details, yet fail to look at the big picture. The family structure is so important in the Qur'an, that even a divorced women has to wait 3 months before marrying to make sure that she isn't pregnant with her previous husband, to ensure that the lineage of each person continues.
Atheists, who only look at life as a two dimensional structure, fail to identify the wisdom in Islamic laws.
You need to step back and look outside of the triangle.