Re: The best explanation of the Greek crisis I've seen so far
Posted: Sun May 09, 2010 12:06 am
by RonPizzle
stefbot is great isn't he? while i don't agree entirely with his philosophy on the state and anarchy, he has a really good way of explaining things. everyone here should definitely subscribe to him on YT. very relevant stuff.
Re: The best explanation of the Greek crisis I've seen so far
Posted: Sun May 09, 2010 12:36 am
by Ry
Governments would not have to purchase votes, or their doing it wouldn't matter, if the public was informed and educated. Our problem is idiots electing plutocrats into power because of limited media. Mass media could change everything even under a democracy. There is nothing that intrinsically causes a state to pander for favors and votes by awarding fiat money to its supporters or itself. It's possible for a government to do right and not over spend or allow its MIC to consume everything. We're not going to over throw the governments of the world. Lets be realistic and work on killing the fed and building alternative media.
awesome video by the way on greece and philosophy. That's just my little counter to the second part of it.
Re: The best explanation of the Greek crisis I've seen so far
Posted: Sun May 09, 2010 4:21 am
by rory5
Actually, its very slow and doesn't appeal to me in any way. Something about the way this guy talks, his way of stating endless facts BEFORE, stating hypotheses that these facts are supposed to support. Not logical and very dull. I'm sure he has some good ideas, but when gerard celente was mentioned in the video text I wished I could hear him instead.
Re: The best explanation of the Greek crisis I've seen so far
Posted: Sun May 09, 2010 9:00 am
by PARCGREENE
Ry wrote:Governments would not have to purchase votes, or their doing it wouldn't matter, if the public was informed and educated. Our problem is idiots electing plutocrats into power because of limited media. Mass media could change everything even under a democracy. There is nothing that intrinsically causes a state to pander for favors and votes by awarding fiat money to its supporters or itself. It's possible for a government to do right and not over spend or allow its MIC to consume everything. We're not going to over throw the governments of the world. Lets be realistic and work on killing the fed and building alternative media.
awesome video by the way on greece and philosophy. That's just my little counter to the second part of it.
Yes, baby steps to freedom is the only realistic goal. I do not however believe governments can do the right thing and not over spend--in the long run that is. History has proven limited government always grows. Usually it's the governments that start the smallest, end up the biggest. Nothing fuels government faster than productive, wealthy citizens. It's impossible for them to keep their grubby hands off a wealthy citizenry. Why? Everyone has their ONE favorite policy they see as an absolute necessity. Multiply those rent seeking policies by millions of people and you have the current state of political affairs/oppression in the world.
A voluntary, non-coerced society(ies) will not happen in my lifetime, but I believe it to be the moral compass to aim for.
The public will obviously not be informed by the public schools, so re-educating via new media has to take place to enlighten the idiots. Is it probable they will listen and re-learn? I doubt it.
Check out: http://www.schoolsucksproject.com/
Maybe we'll see freedom blossom in the information age, maybe the government will just crack down on the internet, the latter seems more likely. I hope to see more freedom in my lifetime, but I'm fully prepared mentally to watch things get way worse before anything gets better. Don't get me wrong, I want my chains to lighten, but chains are still chains. Coercive government, not matter how small, still have the keys to those chains.