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Israelis said Atta got anthrax from Iraq

Post by Ry » Thu Apr 09, 2009 9:24 am

1 London Times 10/27/01
BY DANIEL MCGRORY
Yesterday the German newspaper Bild suggested a more sinister motive for their meetings. The claim, according to Israeli security sources, is that Atta was handed a vacuum flask of anthrax by his Iraqi contact. From Prague, it is believed Atta flew to Newark. From New Jersey, letters laced with anthrax were sent to broadcasters and politicians in New York, Washington and Florida. [/url]

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Re: Israelis said Atta got anthrax from Iraq

Post by Diogenes » Sat May 23, 2009 9:19 pm

Stansilav Gross, the Czech Interior Minister, confirmed yesterday a meeting in Prague between Atta and Mr Al-Ani just weeks before the envoy was expelled
wasn't this whole supposed meeting between Atta and Saddam's men in Prague a PNAC lie? Was Atta EVER in Prague?

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Post by Ry » Sun Aug 02, 2009 10:29 pm

20 Quick facts and unanswered questions about 9/11
First, how did Israeli security forces witness a transfer of anthrax between two groups that didn't have it, at a meeting that never even took place?

Obviously the Israelis were lying and obviously they were trying to blame the anthrax attack on Al Qaeda and then connect them to Iraq. The notes that accompanied the anthrax letters also tried to blame Al Qaeda as they were sent from the same locations as the Hijacker cells shortly after 911 and they read Death to America and Death to Israel thus trying to pass themselves off as Muslim terrorists. How did "Ivins" know where the hijacker cells were and how did he get to New Jersey and Florida and remain at work on time in Maryland all at once on his own? Obviously he didn't. Israel knew where the cells were because it was their set up. They mailed it. It seems to me like there was a plan to do this back in 93.

1 Israel is caught lying about saying they SAW Iraqis pass anthrax to Al qaeda.
2 Then real anthrax which is genetically proven to have come from within the US, is sent from the same areas as the hijacker cells.
3 Israel is busted with a spy ring where agents lived right next door to said hijackers.
4 The notes try to blame it all on Muslims and equate America's enemies with Israel's enemies. Why was it sent to the two senators who opposed the Patriot Act? That certainly wasn't in Al qaeda's interests.
5 Whoever really sent it had knowledge of where to send it from as well as access to anthrax. The idea for the first suspect who was blamed came from a letter sent BEFORE there was news of the event. And the accused reported that the sender was one Philip Zack who was BUSTED IN THE PAST STEALING ANTHRAX FROM THE SAME LAB, yet this individual is never questioned by the FBI or Justice Department.
6 Philip Zack is a hard line anti-Muslim scientist was busted in 1992 stealing anthrax just months before the first WTC bombing which ended up a botched FIB operation, which supposedly set up a "drill" to catch some terrorist by using an agent to supply them with fake explosives which they were going to bust them with in a sting, only the sting never came and the explosives were real. The rented trucks and bomb making equipment go back to Josey Hadas an Israel Mossad agent. The issue is dropped.
(what is the point in trying to set up Al Qaeda or Muslims when they were obviously already in as much trouble as possible. So why risk going to jail just to set up an enemy that is already done for UNLESS you needed that to implicate Iraq.)
7 Israelis are busted in a van full of explosives on 911 on the George Washington Bridge, and live reports are made about this. Later a second group of Israelis are busted celebrating outside another van which had traces of explosives. Between the two vans there were five men all together and each one of them failed lie detector tests about 9/11.
8 All of the said vans belonged to Urban Moving Systems which turns out to be a Mossad front.
9 Then 12 cpu hard drives are confiscated by the FBI from the Urban moving systems head quarters (just 4 miles from where anthrax was sent in NJ by the way) all the evidence is classified.
10 Multiple reports of secondary explosions occur live on 9/11.
11 Police even find a parked van with a "suspicious" device which they think is a bomb.
12 WTC survivors report over and over again that there were explosions in the basement of the towers.
13 A prepackaged media tape sent from Israel of dancing Palestinians (which turned out to be a fraud) is aired on every American TV news program.
14 Prominent Zionist make billions from the collapse of the WTC and financial erasing of the pentagons missing money. (2.3 trillion dollars)
15 Odigo warns employes of an attack before it happened.
16 Bush claims twice that he saw the first plane hit the towers live on TV the day of the event which is impossible.
17 PNAC shovels out reports in great detail to launch a war on Iraq and falsely tie it to 911 based on the Israeli reports.
18 DHS is created and the pre written Patriot act is introduced by super Zionist.
19 Though there few few deaths in Virginia the people most responsible for tracking missing money seemed to have been unluckily killed because they were on flight 77 and their computers were in the naval and financial wing of the pentagon which was the only side hit.
20 I write about all of this and my websites disappear then in 2004 in Japan I later find comverse spying on my computer.

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Re: Israelis said Atta got anthrax from Iraq

Post by Ry » Sat Aug 08, 2009 12:22 am

Israeli sources claim Atta got anthrax from Iraq in Prague

A lie built on top of a lie. First PNAC's weekly standard claims there was a meeting between Atta and Iraqis. Sep 18. Later in October the Israelis add to that lie by saying the Iraqis gave him anthrax.

Oh but later we find out Al Qaeda didn't send the anthrax yet who ever did knew where Al Qaeda's cells were. Hey guess who we caught living next door to them and spying on the US... Israel.
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Re: Israelis said Atta got anthrax from Iraq

Post by Ry » Sat Aug 08, 2009 8:09 am

This meeting in Pargue lie from PNAC is what connected Iraq to 911. So t is vital. Later because of the Israelis adding the anthrax transfer myth to it (London Time, The Independent, New york Observe, Blid, Le Monde etc) the anthrax was also connected to 911 and Al Qaeda.

Soon the anthrax lie would continue to be expanded by the Neocons to include VX gas. The anthrax and VX were on mobile weapons labs on truck. How did they know this crap? They just made it up! They already made that same claim back in the 90s! with PNAC Then chemical weapons labs were under the palaces of Sammad Safire said that was ANOTHER lie and one that had already been said by Schmitz of PNAC as well as Wolfowitz back in the 90s.

Each one of these lies about WMDs which I assume you all remember was what lead us to war and what led 84% of Americans at the time to believe that Saddam was part of 911. 34% of Americans STILL believe that baloney.

The lies started in Israel and were regurgitated by a Zionist cabal in the DOD then they were further fostered by faked evidence, (Niger forgeries, Downing street minutes, INC defectors, Miller and all her bull etc etc)

That's how we went to war and that's how it was wrongly connected to 911. By the way the New York Observer which first published the Iraq/anthrax/911 myth was owned by Kushner who is who put Cipel in power in NJ who got a job as head of security and blackmailed the governor.

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Re: Israelis said Atta got anthrax from Iraq

Post by Ed » Sat Aug 08, 2009 10:35 pm

http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200110/s400755.htm Friday, October 26, 2001
Bild quoted reports from Israeli intelligence services that Atta, suspected leader of the pilots who steered two hijacked US planes into the twin towers of the World Trade Center in New York on September 11, had met twice in the Czech republic with Iraqi secret service agents who allegedly gave him the anthrax bacteria.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2001/oct/25/anthrax.uk Thursday 25 October 2001
Bild cites unnamed Israeli intelligence sources as saying Atta, who is suspected of flying a plane which crashed into the World Trade Centre, received anthrax spores from Iraqi agents during two visits to the Czech Republic. Atta is believed to have lived in Hamburg before going to the states where he lived in Florida for a period, close to where the first anthrax death occurred.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 32731.html

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Re: Israelis said Atta got anthrax from Iraq

Post by Diogenes » Tue Aug 11, 2009 10:57 pm

did this israeli claim come AFTER the anthrax letters became known?

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Re: Israelis said Atta got anthrax from Iraq

Post by Ed » Wed Aug 12, 2009 6:38 pm

Diogenes wrote:did this israeli claim come AFTER the anthrax letters became known?
yeah this has been bugging me. it seems to me that Israelis and Czech intelligence (although they may have been basing this on info from Israelis) said Atta met with Iraqi officials after the first anthrax attack happened. but there were reports that Atta was actually seen giving the Iraqis a vile of anthrax in prague which is obviously false. but all after the anthax attacks had occurred.

This in itself does not prove that they knew about the anthrax attacks before-hand. all it shows is that they wanted war with iraq and lied to help it happen.

Ry do you have a link for the claim from the Weekly Standard about Atta meeting with iraqis in prague on September 18th.

what I have found is this Associated Press report from September 18th. http://www.leadingtowar.com/PDFsources_ ... 8_AP.pdfon the third page it states:
A U.S. official, speaking on condition of anonymity, said the
United States has received information from a foreign intelligence
service that Mohamed Atta, a hijacker aboard one of the
planes that slammed into the World Trade Center, met
earlier this year in Europe with an Iraqi intelligence agent.
The raw intelligence came in since the attacks last Tuesday and
has not yet been corroborated by U.S. authorities, the official
said.
if this information came from the Israelis then that it very damning. but it is said that the source was originally information the Czechs got from some Arab student who said he'd seen Atta in Prague.

supposedly this lays out the timeline of it all:
http://www.leadingtowar.com/claims_facts_atta.php

if you look on Wikipedia here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohamed_At ... connection
this states that Czech officals were backing off the claim of Atta meeting with Iraqi intelligence basically from the very beginning.
The story was first leaked to the Reuters news service on September 18, 2001. Without naming Prague, Reuters reported that "[r]ecent intelligence information received by the United States showed Atta had met with a representative of Iraqi intelligence this year". The report cited "U.S. government sources".[7] On October 13, 2001, the story was leaked to Czech newspapers. The story was confirmed by the State Department. On October 20, the NY Times published a story by John Tagliabue saying Czech officials denied the meeting ever occurred. On October 26, Czech Republic Interior Minister Stanislav Gross responded by calling a press conference to officially state details reported regarding Atta's visit. On October 27, the New York Times published a story refuting its story of October 20. [8] Later the New York Times reported that Czech officials later backed off of the claim, first privately, and then later publicly after the paper conducted "extensive interviews with leading Czech figures."[9]
but check this out:
In August 2002, Czech foreign intelligence chief František Bublan publicly backed away from the claim that Atta met al-Ani, saying that rumors of such meetings "have not been verified or proven." The Prague Post reported that "Bublan said that promoting a so-called 'Prague connection' between Atta and al-Ani might have been a ploy by U.S. policymakers seeking justifications for a new military action against Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein."[15]
and this:
Opposition leaders in the Czech Republic have publicly called this a failure on the part of Czech intelligence, and it is not clear that any Czech officials still stand by the story.[19] In hopes of resolving the issue, Czech officials hoped to be given access to information from the U.S. investigation but that cooperation was not forthcoming.[20] In May 2004, the Czech newspaper Právo speculated that the source of the information behind the rumored meeting was actually the discredited INC chief Ahmed Chalabi.[21]
Ahmad Chalabi - PNAC's minion.


ok foudn this too: http://www.resisttyranny.com/pnac/web.a ... 102901.pdf - Gary Schmitt, PNAC paper, from October 19 2001.
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Re: Israelis said Atta got anthrax from Iraq

Post by Diogenes » Wed Aug 12, 2009 10:08 pm

so basically, after phillip zack did the anthrax attacks, PNAC decided to put a spin on it with this lie

and why did you say that the claim was that atta gave anthrax to iraq, didn't it make more sense the other way around?

and what were the dates of the letters? i read something elsewhere that it was meant to coincide with 9/11 but was delayed?

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Re: Israelis said Atta got anthrax from Iraq

Post by Ed » Thu Aug 13, 2009 7:35 am

Diogenes wrote:so basically, after phillip zack did the anthrax attacks, PNAC decided to put a spin on it with this lie

and why did you say that the claim was that atta gave anthrax to iraq, didn't it make more sense the other way around?

and what were the dates of the letters? i read something elsewhere that it was meant to coincide with 9/11 but was delayed?
Sorry i've written it the wrong way round. it was reported as Iraqis giving Atta some anthrax. Ry has the London Times article in the first post. Anyway, the story is all false, this has been confirmed.

The first letter was post-stamped 18 September.
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