Email I got on birds and illegals

[Ry]

I bought a bird feeder. I hung
it on my back porch and filled
it with seed. What a beauty of
a bird feeder it is, as I filled it
lovingly with seed. Within a
week we had hundreds of birds
taking advantage of the
continuous flow of free and
easily accessible food.

But then the birds started
building nests in the boards
of the patio, above the table,
and next to the barbecue.

Then came the poop. It was
everywhere: on the patio tile,
the chairs, the table
everywhere!

Then some of the birds
turned mean. They would
dive bomb me and try to
peck me even though I had
fed them out of my own
pocket.

And others birds were
boisterous and loud. They
sat on the feeder and
squawked and screamed at
all hours of the day and night
and demanded that I fill it
when it got low on food.

After a while, I couldn't even
sit on my own back porch
anymore. So I took down the
bird feeder and in three days
the birds were gone. I cleaned
up their mess and took down
the many nests they had built
all over the patio.

Soon, the back yard was like
it used to be.... quiet, serene
and no one demanding their
rights to a free meal.

Now let's see.
Our government gives out
free food, subsidized housing,
free medical care, and free
education and allows anyone
born here to be an automatic
citizen.

Then the illegals came by the
tens of thousands. Suddenly
our taxes went up to pay for
free services; small apartments
are housing 5 families; you
have to wait 6 hours to be seen
by an emergency room doctor;
your child's 2nd grade class is
behind other schools because
over half the class doesn't speak
English.

Corn Flakes now come in a
bilingual box; I have to
'press one' to hear my bank
talk to me in English, and
people waving flags other
than 'Old Glory' are
squawking and screaming
in the streets, demanding
more rights and free liberties.

Just my opinion, but maybe
it's time for the government
to take down the bird feeder.
If you agree, pass it on; if not,
continue cleaning up the poop!

[Liszt]

wow - even the poets are getting mad!

[aucuneconnerie]

Oh, please, Ry, you sound like an Israeli bitching about Palestinians. And this 'free' shit is not borne out by facts. See this report of the only full-scale study done on the matter by a State Comptroller in the USA.

"The [Texas] Comptroller’s report estimates that undocumented immigrants in Texas generate more taxes and other revenue than the state spends on them. This finding is contrary to two recent reports, FAIR’s, “The Cost of Illegal Immigration to Texans” and the Bell Policy Center’s “Costs of Federally Mandated Services to Undocumented Immigrants in Colorado”, both of which identified costs exceeding revenue."

“The absence of the estimated 1.4 million undocumented immigrants in Texas in fiscal 2005 would have been a loss to our gross state product of $17.7 billion." wrote Scott McClellan's mama, Carole Keeton Strayhorn, Texas Comptroller
http://www.window.state.tx.us/specialrp ... intro.html
Here's the whole report:
http://www.window.state.tx.us/specialrp ... mented.pdf

Here's a little history you're unaware of:
Immigration — and the Curse of the Black Legend - New York Times
www.nytimes.com/2006/07/09/opinion/09horwitz.html
This was the entirety of the United States 208 years ago:
http://www.earlyamerica.com/earlyamerica/maps/1800/
This is what our country looked like after it was formed: a strip mall on the east coast.
http://www.earlyamerica.com/earlyameric ... ement.html
In 1803, Spain gave back lands to France/Napoleon (Louisiana Purchase) on Nov 30, 1803 to help the young American revolutionaries shaft the Brits. (Spain's bitch was with the Brits.) Napoleon then agreed to sell this land to Jefferson's patriots in France for $15 million on Dec 20, 1803. Ten days later on Dec 30, 1803 the deal was done and the USA became almost what it is today.

You've been bamboozled by John Tanton -- one of the original Rockefeller Eugenics guys; a barely known fact -- and his 13 anti-immigration groups, like FAIR and CIS. [Frosty Wooldridge is Tanton's disciple, and a logical idiot.]
http://www.splcenter.org/intel/intelrep ... jsp?aid=93

And guess who now has a vested interest in taking over two of Tanton's DC groups? (The ones Lou Dobbs uses as source all the time.)
"Open Borders Threaten Jewish Clout" by Stephen Steinlight [Senior policy analyst at the Center for Immigration Studies (CIS) -- a Tanton group -- and former director of national affairs at the ultra-conservative American Jewish Committee.]
http://www.forward.com/articles/785/

Ask yourself why Americans are being asked to view Mexicans as Palestinians, and agree to erect an Israel-style wall on its southern border? Seriously. Stop. And. Think. About. This.

And which country would those 12 million new voters (6.75 Mexican; 5.75 everybody else) side with? America, right? As brand-new Americans? Of course, they would. And our congressmen and senators would be happy to get their votes. And they would vote; that's a certainty. But who could those votes overwhelm as a result?

This anti-immigration shit is the biggest lie, the biggest bamboozle, I've seen people swallow in a long time. Especially when its out-sourcing that takes the jobs, the taxes, and the profit.

Read this for the real story behind the illegal immigration from Mexico here:
http://www.webofdebt.com/excerpts/chapter-22.php

[Ry]

Oh, please, Ry, you sound like an Israeli bitching about Palestinians

I didn't write this its an email I got and I didn't say I agree with it.

If you read my take on it or see my videos I have been saying to stop blaming immigrants, to get rid of NAFTA to make legal immigration easier and cheaper and though I am against illegal immigration (it is the law) the main blame has to be on the corporation exploiting their labor.

DONT compare me to Israelis ever. Israel is in Palestine demolishing their homes. America is not in Mexico knocking down houses. America is not building racial colonies or bombing Mexican cities the situations are not even comparable. Mexico is the 14th richest country in the world (Canada is 15th) its far from the third world. A lot of Americans are moving there.

There is nothing so hard aobut just signing the paper and coming the legal way only when you come legally you have to pay taxes and they dont want to do that.

[aucuneconnerie]

There is nothing so hard aobut just signing the paper and coming the legal way only when you come legally you have to pay taxes and they dont want to do that.

There are impossible quotas on Canadians and Mexicans wanting to move here, unlike other countries. It's a hidden internal thing and I know this first-hand. Been told it directly by the former INS officials. Easier to emigrate to the US from Japan or Senegal. Waaaay easier. ICE swats flies with Canadian and Mexican visa applications. For years.

You can't say 'they dont want to pay taxes'. That's nutz. And it's untrue. First, unless the illegal is working for himself, he or she has taxes automatically taken out of the salary. I had a girl clean for me once a week on Sunday. She worked in a curtain factory with a fake SSN during the week. Everyone was illegal. The owner took taxes out so that she only earned $2.95/hr on her $5.25/hr minimum salary. Any calculation of that percentage he was subtracting tells you he was skimming off the top. She didn't have a problem paying taxes. She didn't understand why it had to be so high. And she was right. And she couldn't file a return to get some f the money back.

I live in the southwest, Ry. I have never, not ever, seen anyone work as hard as Mexicans. A friend of mine is a big cheese at a huge Vegas casino in NV, has dominion over thousands of employees, and she told me, "It's like the United Nations here, but give me a Mexican over any other nationality anytime. They are the hardest working people I've ever hired."

This image of indolent illegals scurrying across the border to steal from poor honest American white folk, rip off their hospitals, and cop a free education, is not something i have encountered. Perhaps the border towns have tales like that, but it works both ways. Medicine is cheaper in Mexico, ditto the costs of doctors, and folkloric medicine has the same rep as shamanic Indian medicine on the Hopi Res. Every white person in the barren SoCal Imperial Valley bitches about Mexicans and the gangs and clogging schools, so that's a problem there.

[EndAllApartheid]

Some of the immigrants are real bad and violent, and do steal away all the jobs but so do Zionists and I would never nod approval to that.

Some of them are good, decent immigrants and in the end they should all pass the same checkpoint system. Not the police state Zionist shill system that wants to keep all immigrants out except the ones willing to work for them. I think everyone will be able to do without that.....

But I don't agree with all immigration I only agree with moderate immigration and relaxed restrictions.

[Phys]

I live in Texas. Illegals drain public schools, hospitals and do not pay taxes. They also almost always don’t have any type of auto insurance so if they hit you you’re screwed. If you have any illegals working for you, you pay cash so you don’t have to pay taxes or show that you have them working for you cause the labor is cheaper. Coming here legally protects the immigrant from being a slave, and being brought here in trucks.

ICE swats flies with Canadian and Mexican visa applications. For years.

Good. America cant take everyone. If you cant make your own country work, why come here and f*ck up this one? I could understand why someone would want to leave Canada ice and snow is boring, but Mexico is beautiful and has loads of natural resources. The only reason its so bad is corruption and NAFTA.

There are also plenty of illegals from China. America cant take everyone.

[Kraig]

Social programs are a drain on society, period. It doesn't matter if you were born in Mexico or the US or anywhere, if you mooch of welfare for years and years you are fucking over every honest worker in your community.

Here is San Antonio, I knew someone who in high school who got his g/f pregnant when they were both 16. For that he was rewarded a life of ease. Dirt cheap apartment, usually less than $100 a month for what should be $500+ a month, as well as monthly check for expenses and food, as well as endless college scholarships - which he doesn't make use of. Now just few months ago he found some information from one of his welfare buddies - if he has another kid he can get a bigger apartment and a bigger expense check. So he knocked up his g/f again, and they are looking at two bedroom apartments, for the same price as before. This guy has never had a serious job in his life, and I've probably paid more in taxes than he has ever earned in income.

This is the problem! It makes abosolutly no difference if thise guy is legal or not, in this case he is. This is destroying our society, among many other things. We reward people for fucking up and failing at life, what kind of society should we expect by those standards?

Illegal aliens have become the scapegoat for this and other problems when it is all really the government at fault.

[Phys]

I don't think we need a border. I think it's mostly a matter of economics. Perhaps if American workers unionized with immigrants it would not be such a problem.

I do, however, think we need some level of national sovereignty, but that shouldn't be enforced by government, it should exist in the hearts and minds of the citizenry

agree.

[Phys]

If Americans want to pay less taxes, they should pester their Congress men and women.

Why do you assume we arent? I have to pay payroll taxes on the 15th of every month. Sales taxes on the 21st, quarterly taxes on profits and yearly income taxes on the my business and personal. That's crazy. I debated every quarter on closing the place down or not. Which it looks like now, I m not going to. I was going to since my husband left the company to take a job at a local college, but decided to just hire someone for that role.

There's no free meal being given to immigrants. I know some of these people and most of them have two and three jobs. They work harder than any American I've ever seen. They speak two and three languages and we barely speak one.

So what, it doesnt change the law.

Everyone has got problems. Immigrants and citizens alike. Blaming our problems on others is not the solution. We're all in this together. Blame the government for mismanagement.

Exactly, so they should stay in their country and blame their govt and resolve their problems verses running from it and creating new ones. Tax payer pay for schools and some hospitals, the hard working americans are the ones paying the cost.