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Politicians With Dual Israeli Citizenship

Post by Rio » Thu Jan 17, 2008 12:30 pm

I know we all repeat this as if they are facts, but I haven't been able to find any mainstream sources to actually prove to a mainstream audience as such.

Where can I find this?

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Post by Ian » Thu Jan 17, 2008 12:41 pm

Well you certainly won't find this in the Washington Post/CNN/Fox News/Times/etc

The Denver Post is a close as I can get >

http://neighbors.denverpost.com/blog.ph ... y-general/
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Post by Rio » Thu Jan 17, 2008 2:31 pm

Thank you Ian.

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Post by Ry » Thu Jan 17, 2008 5:44 pm

it's one at a time there is no list.

But basically 68% of the PNAC group is dual citizens. and 90% is Jewish. 100% is Zionist (jews or christians)
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Post by black_action_hero » Fri Jan 18, 2008 11:58 am

found this on another forum, you tell me...
http://www.viewzone.com/dualcitizen.html

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Post by Ian » Fri Jan 18, 2008 12:31 pm

black_action_hero wrote:found this on another forum, you tell me...
http://www.viewzone.com/dualcitizen.html
Good find! I mean, stating the same thing Ry has been saying, but it's always nice to find it somewhere else. One thing that still bugs me is how we can even call our government the American government when well over half of the high-level executive offices are held by Israeli nationals?

This was my favorite part:
The 1940 Nationality Act

Section 401 (e) of the 1940 Nationality Act provides that a U.S. citizen, whether by birth or naturalization, "shall lose his [U.S.] nationality by...voting in a political election in a foreign state."

This law was tested many times. In 1958, for instance, an American citizen named Perez voted in a Mexican election. The case went to the Supreme Court, where the majority opinion held that Perez must lose his American nationality. The court said Congress could provide for expatriation as a reasonable way of preventing embarrassment to the United States in its foreign relations.

But then something very odd happened.

In 1967 an American Jew, Beys Afroyim received an exemption that set a precedent exclusively for American Jews. Afroyim, born in Poland in 1895, emigrated to America in 1912, and became a naturalized U.S. citizen in 1926. In 1950, aged 55, he emigrated to Israel and became an Israeli citizen. In 1951 Afroyim voted in an Israeli Knesset election and in five political elections that followed. So, by all standards he lost his American citizenship -- right? Wrong.

After living in Israel for a decade, Afroyim wished to return to New York. In 1960, he asked the U.S. Consulate in Haifa for an American passport. The Department of State refused the application, invoking section 401 (e) of the Nationality Act -- the same ruling that had stripped the American citizen named Perez of his U.S. citizenship.

Attorneys acting for Afroyim took his case to a Washington, DC District Court, which upheld the law. Then his attorneys appealed to the Court of Appeals. This court also upheld the law. The attorneys for Afroyim then moved the case on to the Supreme Court. Here, with Supreme Court Justice Abe Fortas, Lyndon Johnson's former attorney and one of the most powerful Jewish Americans, casting the swing vote, the court voted five to four in favor of Afroyim. The court held that the U.S. government had no right to "rob" Afroyim of his American citizenship!

The court, reversing its previous judgment as regards the Mexican American, ruled that Afroyim had not shown "intent" to lose citizenship by voting in Israeli elections. Huh???
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Post by Rio » Fri Jan 18, 2008 12:56 pm

black_action_hero wrote:found this on another forum, you tell me...
http://www.viewzone.com/dualcitizen.html
Haha! Thanks for the effort, but unfortunately this is no help. The whole reason I brought this topic up is because someone at another forum posted this exact link!

One poster totally went off called the original poster a racist and said the source had no credibility. Well even though there has been no proof of dual citizenship aside from Ian's link, the debate is still going on and pretty much at a draw, with a slight edge in our favor, largely because they cannot answer one simple question from me:

Is everyone who merely questions the influence of Jews or Israel in our government and media anti-Semitic? If so, why?
It's definitely not PC. Maybe it is racist, hell IDK! But either way answer whatsoever.
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Post by Ian » Fri Jan 18, 2008 1:23 pm

Where's this debate happening, Rio? If you don't mind me asking...
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Post by Rio » Fri Jan 18, 2008 2:23 pm

Thedebate has pretty much run it's course but you can go here. Oh BTW I change my sig once a week and this time I borrowed your sig this time 8)
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Post by Ian » Fri Jan 18, 2008 2:34 pm

Oh yeah, whistle stopper :puke:

That place seems like everyone's competing for who can recite the same mainstream media rhetoric most accurately. You have tradtional media "lefties" and "righties" that, imo, plagiarize whatever they hear on CNN and Fox news the night before. I've posted there before but found it's mostly just a waste of time. I'll check out the thread, though. Thanks Rio, and don't worry about the sig. You can thanks Winston for that one 8)
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"Fine, let’s take a vote. Who wants fish for dinner?...Yeah, democracy ain’t so fun when it fucks you, huh?” http://twitter.com/Shitmydadsays

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