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Post by Drew J » Tue Apr 16, 2013 2:53 pm

Eyewitness: Authorities “Must Have Known” About Bombing
Spotters on roof for “drill” before explosions at Boston marathon
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Despite police refusing to acknowledge that they had any warning of the bombing attack on the Boston Marathon, eyewitness Ali Stevenson says authorities “must have known” of a threat because they announced a drill beforehand and had spotters on the roof at the start of the race.


Stevenson has gone into further detail about what he experienced in the morning at the start of the race, when participants in the marathon were told by police to stay calm as loudspeakers announced a bomb drill.
“At the starting line this morning, they had bomb sniffing dogs and the bomb squad out there,” he said. “They kept announcing to runners not to be alarmed, that they were running a training exercise,” Stevenson told AL.com.
However, during a press conference, Boston police told Infowars reporter Dan Bidondi that there was “no specific intelligence” regarding an attack and that no drills took place besides the usual precautions taken for a big event.
When Bidondi again attempted to ask police about why people were being told to remain calm before the bombs exploded, there was no response.
“They kept making announcements saying to the participants ‘do not worry, this is just a training exercise’” said Stevenson, who is the University of Mobile’s Cross Country Coach.
“Evidently, I don’t believe they were just having a training exercise, they must have known,” Stevenson told Local15 News. “They must have had some sort of threat or suspicion called in,” adding that spotters were stationed on roofs of buildings and that bomb sniffing dogs were going up and down the finish line.
Stevenson said the level of security he witnessed was unlike anything he had experienced as a marathon runner before in major cities such as Chicago, Washington D.C., and London.
Photographic evidence confirms Stevenson’s claim that there were spotters on the roof before the bombs exploded.

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As the Daily Mail reports, “A picture posted on Twitter shows an individual walking on the roof directly overlooking one of the blasts at the Boston Marathon.”
The fact that this individual is in such close proximity to the blast clearly suggests that he is either one of the perpetrators behind the attack or a police officer detailed with carrying out surveillance duties as part of the bomb drill.
Mike Adams explains, other inconsistencies in the official narrative also clearly suggest that the blasts were not unexpected.
“It is impossible for a bomb squad to have located, analyzed, rigged and detonated the third bomb in under an hour, especially when it was located one mile away, at the Kennedy Presidential Library,” he writes. “The Boston bomb squad clearly had advanced notice of the presence of the bombs at the marathon, and they also had advanced notice of the location of the bomb at the Kennedy Presidential Library. “
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Re: Twin Bombing at Boston Marathon: 3 dead, 140+ injured

Post by Tim » Tue Apr 16, 2013 8:27 pm

They're going to blame it on either Muslims or right wing nuts. Watch.

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Post by blank » Wed Apr 17, 2013 1:50 am

ok ryan what did you just say about being dogmatic and over confident about an idea. how do you know for sure there was a drill? i saw that video and i guess they did say there was a drill before the events of the day, but that does not mean that there was a drill. it could be that unnamed intelligence officials tipped off security 'we have credible evidence that a patriot group pro gun anti war activist will place a bomb at the start of the race' then they bring in all those dogs and security and calm people down by claiming its a drill. then the explosion goes off at the end of the race and all the security there has who to blame in their mind as everyone starts asking them what happened.

there could have been a drill, but i think a tipoff in order to create an enemy is more likely. and then just disguised as a drill to the public. for all i know that could have happened on 9/11 as well. we are all so confident a drill happened at the exact same time, but would the officials believe in a coincidence like that, or are they thinking 'oh we know that the secret is that it was a tipoff but we cant disclose it because it would show how we were unable to stop it even with the tipoff'.
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Re: Twin Bombing at Boston Marathon: 3 dead, 140+ injured

Post by Int'l man of mystery » Wed Apr 17, 2013 5:54 am

Int'l man of mystery wrote:I'm waiting to see what they're going to use this latest incident to sell to people.
And here's the sales pitch:

GOP Rep. Peter King On Boston Bombing: "We Need More Cameras"

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Post by Ry » Wed Apr 17, 2013 7:04 am

There was a drill that isn't something that was denied. The Boston police issued warning about it before the bombing. There were also witnesses who reported about the bomb squad dogs already being there. I dont think i have been confident about this stuff, I have bee saying form the day one I dont know if this is true but given this then this. If this turns out to be crap then for sure there was a terrorist attack however I would say we still couldn't tell if it is blow back from foreign policy or like the DC snipers returning veterans who got home and lost it and and are still behaving like it is a war zone.
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Post by Tim » Wed Apr 17, 2013 7:55 am

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Boston attacks began in Mali, top Muslim Brotherhood official says

A high-ranking Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood official has linked the deadly Boston attacks to the U.S.-backed French war in Mali.

Essam Elerian, vice chairman of the Brotherhood’s Freedom and Justice Party (FJP), wrote in a statement posted in Arabic on his Facebook account that the “events began with the sending of French battalions to Mali in a war against organizations that are said to be part of al Qaeda.”

Elerian expressed sympathy with the families of the victims, but said the attacks “do not stop us from reading into the grave incident.”

“Who interfered in democratic transformations, despite the difficult transition from despotism, corruption, poverty, hatred and intolerance to freedom, justice, tolerance, development, human dignity and social justice?” he asked. “Who created Islamophobia through research and media? Who funded this violence?”

Earlier, Elerian’s FJP party published a statement in English condemning the “heinous attacks in Boston,” which killed three people and wounded more than 170 others.

The party said it “offers heartfelt sympathies and solemn condolences to the American people and the families of the victims.”

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Re: Twin Bombing at Boston Marathon: 3 dead, 176+ injured

Post by PlutoCharon » Wed Apr 17, 2013 11:27 am

The kooks have taken this "it was fake, it was hollywood" shit too far. It's done too much damage for rational discussion in the alternative media. I wonder who made the photo collage of that guy without legs that's floating around. IMO, stuff like that is suspicious because IF this was a real false flag I would expect some form of psych warfare and disinformation like this. The useful idiots wind up discussing ridiculous nonsense and everybody else is unfairly grouped with them by association.

I do agree that sooner or later America's foreign policy (with its meddling in Eastern affairs and drone warfare, etc) is going to cause blowback. This attack could be it. On the flipside, if the drill thing is true I have doubts. That there are always drills preceding several major "terrorist" attacks is beyond suspicious.

The MSM's claim that this was a "pressure cooker bomb" is also suspect because they've been talking about "pressure cooker bombs" being used by terrorists in the months leading up to this. I'm reminded of this couple:

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/01/nyreg ... e-say.html

Morgan Gliedman and Aaron Greene, the Jewish couple from New York arrested in December for possessing, as the article claims, "...serious explosive used in terrorists’ attacks previously” along with various other weapons. They were both NY "socialites" and their parents were "prominent" something or others in the area. They were also heroin addicts. Greene's dad was arrested with him too. The MSM did not give much background other than the occasional news story saying they were "Nazis" and white terrorists. One article tried to say they weren't terrorists and that they were armed (with explosives?) because they were junkies. Another claims Greene was going to blow up some arch in NYC. I remember police reactions that ranged from sounding like they were part of a larger investigation to being harmless and discovered after the neighbors tipped them off.

Almost NO news site mentioned that they were both Jewish except for Jewish new sites. Why is this important? Because of the whole "Sayanim" thing. Considering they were junkies, they would have been an easy "recruit" in exchange for heroin. How does this relate to the Boston Marathon thing? It doesn't. It does suspiciously look like they were Sayanim, armed and possessing explosives. Unlikely "suspects" too, a couple of young NYC socialites (she was also pregnant too) that nobody would really expect. Perfect for these kind of ops.

Whenever eyes are on Israel, especially when there are (laughable) attempts to 'seriously' ignite the 'peace process' it seems there is often a 'distracting' terrorist attack. After the Obama visit, Netanyahu "apologized" to Turkey which was probably forced. The way the Israeli media picked this bombing up is the same way they always handle terrorist attacks. Sympathize with poor Israel who faces this on a daily basis (even though they don't) and 'feel your pain' (they don't have feelings though). The message could be "Look America, look at what terrorists do. You want us to make peace with them?"

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Post by Tim » Wed Apr 17, 2013 9:00 pm

People saying events didn't actually happen are beyond "conspiracy" type of crazy. They're flat out insane and irrational. Don't waste your time arguing with someone like that.

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Re: Twin Bombing at Boston Marathon: 3 dead, 176+ injured

Post by Naava » Thu Apr 18, 2013 9:20 am

Holy motherfucking fuck what an idiotic article :o

Let’s hope the Boston Marathon bomber is a white American

There is a double standard: White terrorists are dealt with as lone wolves, Islamists are existential threats

BY DAVID SIROTA / WEDNESDAY, APR 17, 2013 01:24 AM +0200

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As we now move into the official Political Aftermath period of the Boston bombing — the period that will determine the long-term legislative fallout of the atrocity — the dynamics of privilege will undoubtedly influence the nation’s collective reaction to the attacks. That’s because privilege tends to determine: 1) which groups are — and are not — collectively denigrated or targeted for the unlawful actions of individuals; and 2) how big and politically game-changing the overall reaction ends up being.

This has been most obvious in the context of recent mass shootings. In those awful episodes, a religious or ethnic minority group lacking such privilege would likely be collectively slandered and/or targeted with surveillance or profiling (or worse) if some of its individuals comprised most of the mass shooters. However, white male privilege means white men are not collectively denigrated/targeted for those shootings — even though most come at the hands of white dudes. <--- Really I thought mass shooters are typically white males because they are next to poor people the most disadvantaged and depressed individuals in Western countries. :puke: :shrug:

Likewise, in the context of terrorist attacks, such privilege means white non-Islamic terrorists are typically portrayed not as representative of whole groups or ideologies, but as “lone wolf” threats to be dealt with as isolated law enforcement matters. Meanwhile, non-white or developing-world terrorism suspects are often reflexively portrayed as representative of larger conspiracies, ideologies and religions that must be dealt with as systemic threats — the kind potentially requiring everything from law enforcement action to military operations to civil liberties legislation to foreign policy shifts.

“White privilege is knowing that even if the bomber turns out to be white, no one will call for your group to be profiled as terrorists as a result, subjected to special screening or threatened with deportation,” writes author Tim Wise. “White privilege is knowing that if this bomber turns out to be white, the United States government will not bomb whatever corn field or mountain town or stale suburb from which said bomber came, just to ensure that others like him or her don’t get any ideas. And if he turns out to be a member of the Irish Republican Army we won’t bomb Dublin. And if he’s an Italian-American Catholic we won’t bomb the Vatican.”

Because of these undeniable and pervasive double standards, the specific identity of the Boston Marathon bomber (or bombers) is not some minor detail — it will almost certainly dictate what kind of governmental, political and societal response we see in the coming weeks. That means regardless of your particular party affiliation, if you care about everything from stopping war to reducing the defense budget to protecting civil liberties to passing immigration reform, you should hope the bomber was a white domestic terrorist. Why? Because only in that case will privilege work to prevent the Boston attack from potentially undermining progress on those other issues.

To know that’s true is to simply consider how America reacts to different kinds of terrorism.

Though FBI data show fewer terrorist plots involving Muslims than terrorist plots involving non-Muslims, America has mobilized a full-on war effort exclusively against the prospect of Islamic terrorism. Indeed, the moniker “War on Terrorism” has come to specifically mean “War on Islamic Terrorism,” involving everything from new laws like the Patriot Act, to a new torture regime, to new federal agencies like the Transportation Security Administration and Department of Homeland Security, to wars in Iraq and Afghanistan to mass surveillance of Muslim communities.

By contrast, even though America has seen a consistent barrage of attacks from domestic non-Islamic terrorists, the privilege and double standards baked into our national security ideologies means those attacks have resulted in no systemic action of the scope marshaled against foreign terrorists. In fact, it has been quite the opposite — according to Darryl Johnson, the senior domestic terrorism analyst at the Department of Homeland Security, the conservative movement backlash to merely reporting the rising threat of such domestic terrorism resulted in DHS seriously curtailing its initiatives against that particular threat. (Irony alert: When it comes specifically to fighting white non-Muslim domestic terrorists, the right seems to now support the very doctrine it criticized Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry for articulating — the doctrine that sees fighting terrorism as primarily “an intelligence-gathering, law-enforcement, public-diplomacy effort” and not something more systemic.)

Enter the Boston bombing. Coming at the very moment the U.S. government is planning to withdraw from Afghanistan, considering cuts to the Pentagon budget, discussing civil liberties principles and debating landmark immigration legislation, the attack could easily become the fulcrum of all of those contentious policy debates — that is, depending on the demographic profile of the assailant.

If recent history is any guide, if the bomber ends up being a white anti-government extremist, white privilege will likely mean the attack is portrayed as just an isolated incident — one that has no bearing on any larger policy debates. Put another way, white privilege will work to not only insulate whites from collective blame, but also to insulate the political debate from any fallout from the attack.

It will probably be much different if the bomber ends up being a Muslim and/or a foreigner from the developing world. As we know from our own history, when those kind of individuals break laws in such a high-profile way, America often cites them as both proof that entire demographic groups must be targeted, and that therefore a more systemic response is warranted. At that point, it’s easy to imagine conservatives citing Boston as a reason to block immigration reform defense spending cuts and the Afghan War withdrawal and to further expand surveillance and other encroachments on civil liberties.

If that sounds hard to believe, just look at yesterday’s comments by right-wing radio host Laura Ingraham, whose talking points often become Republican Party doctrine. Though authorities haven’t even identified a suspect in the Boston attack, she (like other conservatives) seems to already assume the assailant is foreign, and is consequently citing the attack as rationale to slam the immigration reform bill.

The same Laura Ingraham, of course, was one of the leading voices criticizing the Department of Homeland Security for daring to even report on right-wing domestic terrorism. In that sense, she perfectly embodies the double standard that, more than anything, will determine the long-term political impact of the Boston bombing.

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Re: Twin Bombing at Boston Marathon: 3 dead, 176+ injured

Post by Tim » Thu Apr 18, 2013 9:51 am

Why would you hope it's someone else? Unless you're a Muslim and worried about irrational backlash, there's no reason to hope it was someone else. If it was Muslim blowback, they should own up to it and denounce the crimes. If it was a lone wolf, lock him up and throw away the key. God, collectivism really is mental cancer.

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