Who Fianacned Jews to move to Palestine? Hitler

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Yes, but here's the thing, everything is speculation on your side. You basically look at it from a point of view of, hey, this war turned out be terrible for Germany and there were mistakes made along the way, so therefore Hitler was a paid agent!

It's human nature to make mistakes and lapses in judgment.

How about allied fuckups that don't get the attention they deserve. How about the battle of the Hurtgen forest? This is when the Western Allies decided to engage the Germans, who were dug in in the Hurtgen forest (where allied air power was useless) and they suffered KIA of 30,000 plus. A colossal fuckup that an amateur military enthusiast could see was dumb. So, then should I make the claim that allied leaders who decided to engage the Germans in the Hurten forest to be paid agents of Germany. That's exactly what you're doing. You have to come up with some sort of hard evidence that Hitler was a paid agent and not just endlessly speculate.

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And I'm not taking away from your other arguments. I have no disagreements with you regarding Holocaust Revisionism.

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And I get the sense that some guys who are against the current world leadership/banking cartel can't come to terms with the fact that Adolf Hitler fought against that same power structure in his day (maybe for different reasons, but he absolutely despised internationalists and central bankers of his day). So they have to invent ridiculous scenarios where Hitler was just a pawn, paid agent, jewish, etc. Not saying that's you Drew, but I just get that sense that's what a lot of folks who buy into these scenarios feel.

[Drew J]

Yes, but here's the thing, everything is speculation on your side. You basically look at it from a point of view of, hey, this war turned out be terrible for Germany and there were mistakes made along the way, so therefore Hitler was a paid agent!

All the books and articles I cited are not speculation. Ex intelligence agents from all over the world have said the same thing to Greg Hallett. Are they all fucking lying? I bet you don't even have an explanation for this article either.

Deathbed confessions, photos support claims that George H. Scherf(f), Jr., was the 41st U.S. president
http://www.proliberty.com/observer/20070405.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Or even tihs one. A deathbed confession plus photos from Hitler's bodyguard Otto Skorenzy, that they were in the pay of US and British intelligence and that is why they were rescued and survived.
http://www.thebushconnection.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

How about allied fuckups that don't get the attention they deserve. How about the battle of the Hurtgen forest? This is when the Western Allies decided to engage the Germans, who were dug in in the Hurtgen forest (where allied air power was useless) and they suffered KIA of 30,000 plus. A colossal fuckup that an amateur military enthusiast could see was dumb. So, then should I make the claim that allied leaders who decided to engage the Germans in the Hurten forest to be paid agents of Germany. That's exactly what you're doing. You have to come up with some sort of hard evidence that Hitler was a paid agent and not just endlessly speculate.

I thought you would never ask about that. There was Abhwer agents in England just like there were British Intelligence agents in Germany. Hell the Germans and the Russians were cross infiltrating each other which is why Stalin knew Barbarossa was coming just like Hitler knew about Operation Thunderstorm.

Did Soviet Spies in Germany Tip Off Stalin To Barbarossa?
https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=8774" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

And also, Makow's on and off again contributors come to the rescue to explain the other side of the cross infiltration game IN ORDER TO KEEP THE WAY GOING. Remember, gotta get to the end a fake a holocaust so as to create Israel and the United Nations.

Illuminati British & Nazis Collaborated
September 7, 2012
(left, Sir Claude Dansey, Deputy Director of MI-6, sent hundreds of British and French Resistance agents to their deaths.)
http://www.henrymakow.com/illuminati_be ... sh_ag.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

And I get the sense that some guys who are against the current world leadership/banking cartel can't come to terms with the fact that Adolf Hitler fought against that same power structure in his day (maybe for different reasons, but he absolutely despised internationalists and central bankers of his day). So they have to invent ridiculous scenarios where Hitler was just a pawn, paid agent, jewish, etc. Not saying that's you Drew, but I just get that sense that's what a lot of folks who buy into these scenarios feel.

According to Hallett's sources, Hitler, like Stalin, was brainwashed and programmed at Tavistock. Hitler was thus likely a split personality disorder. Part of him probably believed in fighting for the greater Germany. However, the German people like the British people and American people had to be led into a war with ulterior, occult motives. All the intelligence agencies collaborated at the very top. But as anyone who has looked into the banking families knows, the same families created both world wars. Hence the same people that broke Germany, let it rebuild, but ONLY TO A CERTAIN POINT. Anthony Migchels explains that one of the American agents Hitler took money from, Saacht, was the kingpin for running the German bank.

Anthony Migchels puts Hitler lovers in their places
http://www.ancreport.com/forum/v ... 14&t=32569" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Many of the men in the SA also figured out Hitler was a pawn and wanted him gone. That is why so many perished in the night of the long knives. I will not deny for example that Hitler did close the Rothschild banks in Germany, but he never exposed what they did in England and America. As Makow says, he clearly was pretending not to know what was obvious to anyone who was paying attention. Funny how the only other house he attacked of the Rothschilds, the one in his HOME COUNTRY OF AUSTRIA, also contained the key to his birth records and showed his Rothschild lineage. Chancellor Dolfuss who was building a dossier on Hitler to this effect ended up dead. Check both of those okkult-nazi articles I linked up for that bit of information.

You have also shown you are going to dodge these two articles.

Hitler Sabotaged Nazi War Effort
December 27, 2014
http://henrymakow.com/2014/12/Hitler-Sa ... rt%20.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Was Hitler an Illuminati Agent?
March 23, 2008
http://www.savethemales.ca/001399.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Okay. That's all I wanted to know.

[Drew J]

This is when the Western Allies decided to engage the Germans, who were dug in in the Hurtgen forest (where allied air power was useless) and they suffered KIA of 30,000 plus. A colossal fuckup that an amateur military enthusiast could see was dumb. So, then should I make the claim that allied leaders who decided to engage the Germans in the Hurten forest to be paid agents of Germany.

I don't know about this one as much as I do other things that Hitler clearly did that were either stupid or the work of a plant as shown in those two articles you have still dodged. More important things at more critical points of war are what others have looked into and found problems with. And there are too much problems to think Hitler wasn't a plant, if he wasn't just too stupid for the job - which is why some tried to get rid of him by way of assassination more than once.

This whole idea of you picking out one thing that is probably not as critical a battle as Dunkirk, or some other thing that has a suspiciously foolish Hitler move behind it, reminds me of how the gas chamber mongers debate. When revisionists find oddities in the first trials in Germany regarding the gas vans, the gas chamber mongers find exceptional cases and say, "See those nazis over here were set free or did little time. Therefore how can you revisionists claim there was corruption? How do you explain your conspiracy theory?" As Jurgen Graf states in "Sobibor" there of course were general exceptions to the rule. However, a critical understanding of the German legal system, who became judges and how judges worked in Western Germany and why some defense lawyers were sick and tired of obvious liars posing as eyewitnesses, is important. And it can be found in a two part response to one gas chamber monger lunatic named Jonathan Harrision.

Start here.
https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?p=67267#p67267" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Part two follows in the next post.

Basically, you don't have to attempt to rig every trial in Germany or purposely fuck up every battle in every place during the second world war. JUST KEY ONES IN KEY PLACES. To argue otherwise would be a strawman that nobody, certainly not me, would subscribe to. Perhaps you should ask what my views are instead of presuming to already know them. Once again...

Hitler Sabotaged Nazi War Effort
December 27, 2014
http://henrymakow.com/2014/12/Hitler-Sa ... rt%20.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Was Hitler an Illuminati Agent?
March 23, 2008
http://www.savethemales.ca/001399.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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This stuff has already been debunked, no need for me to reinvent the wheel.

Regarding Anthony Migchels

http://justice4germans.com/2013/09/25/d ... and-usury/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

By the way, Anthony Migchels’ article is virtually un-sourced. He merely adds some related links at the bottom and pretends that his diatribe is authoritative. About the only thing he sources is from the Jewish Virtual Library where they quote Schacht, as if they are not a biased source?

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Demystification of the Birth and Funding of the NSDAP

V.K. Clarke

http://inconvenienthistory.com/archive/ ... _nsdap.php" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[Drew J]

Anthony Migchels published his first article on Hitler on September 16, 2013. I copied it in the topic on this board I made about Migchels.

The Justice4Germans article is dated September 25, 2013. Migchels had a reply, which I also quoted, and it was published October 1, 2013. In fact I quoted that reply first in the topic I made.
http://www.ancreport.com/forum/v ... 14&t=32569" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
The opening paragraph from Migchels' response is as follows.

The article on Hitler’s finances and the myth of Nazi anti-usury activism generated a major response. While rehashing the classic revisionist case for Hitler, none has disproven, or even mentioned, the basic case of the article: that the banks financed most of the Nazi economy and that the Reichsmark, like all other currencies, was created through fractional reserve banking, as an interest-bearing debt to these banks.

As for V.K. Clarke, I will not deny some German elements funded Hitler. In fact, that was a huge point that was condeded on Henry Makow's website a while back.

Hitler was a Billionaire
December 1, 2014
http://henrymakow.com/2014/12/hitler-wa ... naire.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

But here is where Clarke makes a mistake.

No Warburgs. No Rothschilds. No Rockefellers. While the Rockefellers indirectly came into Hitler’s financial sphere by way of Standard Oil technical investments and the Warburgs via I. G. Farben and J. H. Stein later on, neither gave Hitler any financial support before 1933.

She just let the cat out of the bag, and she refuses to assent to the facts Sutton elucidated so clearly.

Wall Street funded Nazis
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/socio ... evil12.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Wall Street funded Nazis

Professor Antony Sutton in his book, Wall Street and the Rise of Hitler, Professor Antony Sutton (pictured right), author of nineteen books, provides a thoroughly documented account of the role played by Morgan, Rockefeller, General Electric Company, Standard Oil, National City Bank, Chase and Manhattan banks, Kuhn, Loeb and Company, General Motors, Ford, and other industrialists, in helping to finance the Nazis.

To prove his point, Professor Sutton provides bank statements, letters from U.S. ambassadors, mainstream media sources, Congressional Records, excerpts from Congressional Investigations, and statements from the Nuremberg trials. Wall Street's funding of the Nazis is part of authentic history.

Professor Sutton wrote that,

"General Motors, Ford, General Electric, DuPont," and other "U.S. companies intimately involved with the development of Nazi Germany were... controlled by the Wall Street elite," such as "the J.P. Morgan firm, the Rockefeller Chase Bank and to a lesser extent the Warburg Manhattan bank."

"The deal bringing Hitler into the government was cut at the home of banker Baron Kurt von Schroeder on January 4, 1933," wrote author Marrs.

Other notable figures that are said to have appeared at this meeting include Council on Foreign Relations members John Foster Dulles, and Allen Dulles, of the New York law firm Sullivan and Cromwell, which represented the Schroeder bank.

Allen Dulles would eventually become a member the Bilderbergers and director of the CIA.

Zyklon B"Max Warburg," stated Marrs, "a major German banker, and his brother Paul Warburg, who had been instrumental in establishing the Federal Reserve System in the United States, were directors of Interssen Gemeinschaft Farben or I.G. Farben, the giant German chemical firm that produced Zyklon B gas used in Nazi extermination camps."

On the left we see used canisters of the Zyklon B gas found by the allies after WWII.

The gas was apparently produced with the full support of American industrialists.

"The financing for Adolph Hitler's rise to power was handled through the Warburg-controlled Mendelsohn Bank of Amsterdam and later by the J. Henry Schroeder Bank with branches in Frankfurt, London and New York," wrote Gary Allen. "Chief legal council to the J. Henry Schroeder Bank was the firm Sullivan and Cromwell whose senior partners included John Foster and Allen Dulles."

Author James Perloff concurs, and reveals the role that the Council on Foreign Relations played in aiding the Nazis.

He states,

"In 1939, on the eve of blitzkrieg, the Rockefellers' Standard Oil of New Jersey sold $20 million in aviation fuel to... I.G. Farben [and] even had an American subsidiary called American I.G." Describing the CFR's connection to the Nazis, he lists the directors of the American I.G. as "ubiquitous Paul Warburg (CFR founder), Henry A. Metz (CFR founder), and Charles E. Mitchell, who joined the CFR in 1923..."

Other U.S. companies which contributed heavily to the Nazi war machine include Brown Brothers Harriman (BBH) and Union Banking Corporation (UBC), both of New York.

Prescott Bush (grandfather of President George W. Bush) was a partner at BBH and director of UBC. UBC of New York, which was founded and chaired by E. Roland Harriman, is now confirmed to have been a Nazi front company.

Again, this would explain this article I already gave a link to.

Deathbed confessions, photos support claims that George H. Scherf(f), Jr., was the 41st U.S. president
http://www.proliberty.com/observer/20070405.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Or even this one. A deathbed confession plus photos from Hitler's bodyguard Otto Skorenzy, that they were in the pay of US and British intelligence and that is why they were rescued and survived.
http://www.thebushconnection.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

V.K. Clarke

And neither directly supported or paid Hitler at any point in time. The Sidney Warburg story is pure fabrication. Fritz Thyssen and some of Hugenberg’s heavy industrial connections, not James Warburg, gave Hitler substantial monetary gifts in 1929 (at least RM 1,250,000) and Deterding and several German coal companies took care of Hitler in the early 1930s.

To that, I merely quote this:

There is no "Sydney Warburg" but the internal evidence suggests the author was James P. Warburg, son of Federal Reserve founder Paul Warburg. General Ludendorff's wife testified at the Nuremburg trials that James P. Warburg was the conduit through which eventually $34 million was transferred from Wall Street to the Nazis.

Hitler Took a Fall
July 25, 2013
by Henry Makow
http://henrymakow.com/2013/07/hitler-pl ... n-ww2.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Again, Hitler was an idiot or a dupe. It's no wonder there were plots by his own generals to kill him. He was a brainwashed madman. As revisionist Michael A Hoffman II has said (which cost him friends in the revisionist circle), Hitler was the gravedigger of the German people.

Hitler Sabotaged Nazi War Effort
December 27, 2014
http://henrymakow.com/2014/12/Hitler-Sa ... rt%20.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Was Hitler an Illuminati Agent?
March 23, 2008
http://www.savethemales.ca/001399.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[Drew J]

David Irving - Zionist Bankers Main Financiers of Hitler
TheRapeOfJustice
Published on Oct 12, 2015
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_R4pqAGv20" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[Drew J]

Juri Lina. Architects of Deception.

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A deceptive myth exists that it was German capitalists, headed by Fritz Thyssen, the railway engine manufacturer Ernst Von Borsing and the coal magnate Emil Kirdorf in the Rhur area who provided Hitler's financial support. Until 1933, Thyssen paid no more than 2 million RM. This was a comparatively small sum. The German Communist Party alone received tens of millions of marks from Moscow.
That German capitalism in general had no connection to the Nazi Party is easily proved by studying the documents found in the archives of the major companies. The Nazi Party had from the start an anti-capitalist attitude, aimed against German capitalism. When the Nazis in November 1932, tried to make the German capitalists sign a petition for Hitler's appointment to Chancellor, only one of them actually signed it - Fritz Thyssen, who was in fact one of their supporters.

Franz von Papen was in the hands of the financial elite. The German financial elite played a minimal role, as confirmed by the American historian Henry Asby Turner Jr in his magnum opus, "German Big Business and the Rise of Hitler" (Oxford, 1987). Unfortunately Turner says nothing about the role American big business and freemasonry played in Hitler's rise to the top

"Architects of Deception." Juri Lina.

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Controlling a government receiving loans from foreign private banks is very easy. According to Antony Sutton, several Jewish finance companies - Dillon, Read & Co., Harris, Forbes & Co. and National City Company - were the prime movers behind the establish-ment of IG Farben and Vereinigte Stahlwerke (Antony Sutton, "Wall Street and the Rise of Hitler", Sudbury, 1976, p. 163). Together these companies produced 95 per cent of the explosives used by the Nazis during the Second World War.

IG Farben played an important role in financing the Nazis, even though Hitler called the company "an international Jewish organization". Max Warburg, one of the main stockholders, instructed other leading Jews not to boycott it, or protest against Hitler's persecuting the Jews, according to the historian Anton Chaitkin.The Warburg family had after all contributed greatly to the creation of the American central bank, the Federal Reserve System, in 1913.

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IG Farben officially began supporting Hitler in 1931. In the autumn of 1932, at least 400 000 marks was paid to the Nazis on the order of IG Farben president Carl Bosch (Joseph Borkin, "Hitler and IG Farben", 1978). IG Farben also gave financial support to Himmler's SS, as did the large American companies ITT and General Motors.

On 4 February 1999, Deutsche Bank was forced to open its archives from the Nazi era. Deutsche Bank admitted to having financed the concentration camp Auschwitz and the Nazi war effort on order from IG Farben.

The Jewish-owned IG Farben gave 70 million Reichsmarks in total to the Nazis. Without the aid of IG Farben, the Nazis would not have been able to act as effectively as they did

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Hitler was further financed by Paul Warburg, board member of IG Farben (or GAF, as it became known after Pearl Harbor), the management of which consisted entirely of Rockefeller's men, and Max Warburg, director of IG Farben headquarters in Germany. Documents have been published bearing Hitler's name next to that of Max Warburg. One of these documents mentions Hjalmar Schacht as chairman of the national bank. Schacht was a freemason, as is confirmed by masonic sources. He belonged to the Prussian Grand Lodge (Dieter A. Binder, "Die diskrete Gesellschaft: Geschichte und Symbolik der Freimaurer" / "The Discrete Society: History and Symbolism of the Freemasons", Graz, 1988, pp. 77, 90).

In the opinion of Antony Sutton, Hitler had never been able to attain power without contributions from the largest chemical corporation in the world. The legal manager of IG Farben was August von Knieriem, the paternal uncle of Olof Palme, the future Swedish prime minister.

Between 1932 and 1939 General Motors invested close to 30 million dollars in IG Farben. General Motors also supported Hitler's political movement. In the early 1940s, IG Farben co-operated with 53 American companies. The industrialist William R. Davies was appointed official supplier to the German Navy.

The major economic enterprise later undertaken by IG Farben was the Auschwitz concentration camp. The investment amounted to 300 million dollars in today's money. At the Nuremberg trials, only three German executives (all non-freemasons) were convicted of slavery, conspiring against humanity and other crimes. The American directors were never mentioned. The German directors of AEG were like- wise prosecuted, while the American ones were not

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Throughout the war, Rockefeller's oil tankers supplied fuel for Hitler's submarines, enabling them to successfully sink American ships. The submarines were refuelling usually in the immediate vicinity of the Canary Islands (Charles Higham, "Trading with the Enemy", New York, 1984, p. 61).

The Jewish historian Ladislas Farago, at the time working for the American intelligence, agreed: "Hitler's submarine war against British-American shipping during the winter 1942-1943 was a success thanks to the help he received from Rockefeller." ("The Silent War", Stockholm, 1956, p. 77).

In 1940, Standard Oil of New Jersey (now Exxon) had six tankers under Panamanian registry, manned by Nazi officers to carry fuel oil from Standard Oil refineries to the Canary Islands, a refuelling base of Nazi submarines (Antony Sutton, "How the Order Creates War and Revolution", Bullsbrook, 1985, p. 64). A report from Intelligence at Fifth Corps in Columbus, Ohio, on 15 July 1941 stated that the Nazis had sunk no Standard Oil ships.

German submarines sank 3000 American ships. Standard Oil also supplied fuel for the Luftwaffe. According to a FBI report from 1942, 20 per cent of Standard Oil's energy production went to Germany during the war. Standard Oil owned and extracted oil in German- occupied Romania. The chairman of the Harriman-Bush Company, Karl Lindemann, had permission to underwrite Standard Oil cheques for the benefit of the head of the SS Heinrich Himmler

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On 14 March 1985, the Swedish daily Aftonbladet showed that the bankers Jacob and Marcus Wallenberg also had worked closely with the Nazi regime by lending large amounts of money to IG Farben. Two Dutch historians, Gerard Aalders and Cees Wiebes, spent six years searching for evidence of this. A contract was signed between the Nazis and Wallenberg in 1939, effective until 1944. During this period, Jacob Wallenberg visited Germany on repeated occasions to
negotiate with Hitler's government. IG Farben shaped Hitler's foreign policy, as confirmed by Georg von Schnitzler, an IG Farben board member: "IG Farben is basically responsible for Hitler's policies."

In the United States, Wallenberg acted as a front for several companies owned by the German industrialist Robert Bosch. After the war, when the agreements were discovered, the Americans confiscated the companies but the money was mysteriously returned to Wallenberg. Gerard Aalders told Aftonbladet: "How they got their money back from the United States remains a secret."

The Stockholms Enskilda Bank acted as a front for Bosch, Krupp, IG Farben and other major enterprises in Germany during the Second World War. The Wallenberg bank helped them, among other things, by pretending to buy their foreign subsidiary companies (Gerard Aalders and Cees Wiebes, "Affarer till varje pris" / "Business at Any Price", Stockholm, 1989).

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The forces that helped Adolf Hitler to power are still pulling the strings behind the scenes. This is why all the embarrassing facts about the American financiers have not surfaced until now. The United States has the ultimate responsibility for the appearance of communism as well as national socialism on the political arena.

After the Second World War, 226 931 Germans were put on trial charged with crimes against humanity. Originally, 3 596 000 persons were to be tried, but for practical reasons this was not done. Very few communist murderers have been tried in the former communist world. The communists after all did not let their overlords, the financial elite, down.