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Post by Phys » Thu Jul 24, 2008 2:14 pm

Ry wrote:No it's religion. That is who sends Israel billions of dollars tax free. And how about year 1 of those 60 years? Everyone in America associates Israel with the Bible. Even I did when I was a kid because that is what I was told. I was never told that there was a Palestine, I learned about it in history class (by doing my own study outside of school, this was pre-internet days) with the British invading Palestine and was like wait isn't that Israel, oh no Israel was created in 1948, Really!? I thought.

the people that support Israel in America are by and large the ultra religious people and the Jews. if a person supports Israel and they are not religious and you just explain to them about the occupation and what Israel is doing which is not on the news then they will change their mind. But a religious person never changes their mind and no facts can sway it because it is not based in reality anyway.
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Post by Ed » Thu Jul 24, 2008 3:53 pm

Phys wrote:
Ry wrote:No it's religion. That is who sends Israel billions of dollars tax free. And how about year 1 of those 60 years? Everyone in America associates Israel with the Bible. Even I did when I was a kid because that is what I was told. I was never told that there was a Palestine, I learned about it in history class (by doing my own study outside of school, this was pre-internet days) with the British invading Palestine and was like wait isn't that Israel, oh no Israel was created in 1948, Really!? I thought.

the people that support Israel in America are by and large the ultra religious people and the Jews. if a person supports Israel and they are not religious and you just explain to them about the occupation and what Israel is doing which is not on the news then they will change their mind. But a religious person never changes their mind and no facts can sway it because it is not based in reality anyway.
I respect this pov.
I think one of the best arguments against Israel is simply this. What right did Britain have to give land in the middle-east to Jews? especially when it was for Jews who had mostly never been near the middle-east.
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Post by EndAllApartheid » Thu Jul 24, 2008 4:32 pm

Britain didn't have any right they were forced into doing it by totally zionist religious yahoos like Pat Robertson, Balfour was the Robertson of the day.

That said it would have ended up fine if they had just designated the borders and separated the peoples not based on ridiculous apartheid walls, but just sheer rules so one class didn't instantly try to rule the other.

In fact it could have worked as a secular democracy if the zionists just shut up and let the two reconcile their differences!

It was the chosen-ness crap as piled on by the christains that made these zionists into such terrible monsters, idiots and psychos to the flame. Remember religion just lit the match but it was originally aethiest to have everyone accept the chosen-ness racist crap of it all.

That said, with how honestly racist the israelis are acting today I would not want them living here they should stay there and make their peace there. The çhosen-ness crap has completely poisoned them.

I rather talk with any of my jewish friends any day of the week who are all great people, or my arab and mexican friends then speak to an israeli.

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Post by Phys » Thu Jul 24, 2008 6:59 pm

I for one do not respect anyone’s faith and I don’t believe I ever will. Religion is a plague on this planet and a psychosis of the mind. Personally, "I'd rather be hated for who I am, then loved for who I'm not." The fact still remains with out a world of religion there would be no Israel. So I will always battle religion, despite what little whining ass bitches like Muhammad have to say about my class or me. lol

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Re: nearly 50% of Americans want attack on Iran

Post by Sensi Dave » Fri Aug 29, 2008 3:55 pm

I think all the Holocaust propaganda plays just as big a role.

Holohoax + 9/11 hoax + religious hoax = massive sheeple support for Israhell

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