Alex Jones admitting on air they avoid Zionism

[IsolatedSoul1369]

My eyes glaze over when the Illuminati stuff comes up so I've never even checked out his site or heard his radio program. Most "truthers" I know around here are into him though. I can understand (sort of) why he's chosen to be more quiet about Zionism - but is it necessary to focus on things that are unprovable and sound really whacky? Thanks to all the Illuminati hooplah (and I say this believing that the Catholic Church has never been innocent of war crime), "911 truthers" are labeled idiots. It's hard to even bring it up without being laughed at.

I hear you Grace. Some of them are idiots though. One of them dropped support for Ron Paul because of the hand signals he made at the straw poll (sign language 'I Love You' and the Hook'em Horns). I don't know if he even listened to all those people telling him what it actually meant. Alex Jones may not be too bad sometimes (except when talkin illuminati) but some of his followers are just as bad as the sheeple.

[GamerS]

I agree with you Ry, I guess I'm just putting out the view between AJ's and yours. I know it all leads to Israel, but I guess I've internalized it in a way so I can explain it to people and not come off as a Jew-hater. It's different being from the middle-east. Trust me. You know how frustrating it is to have people with IQ's 20 points below me look at me like I'm stupid and/or crazy? I'm constantly dumbing myself down for others. I guess I'd rather give them a bite that gets them thinking, than give them something that they will flat our reject. When I say there are other elements, I'm not assigning a value to each element because I truly don't know, but it's easier to point to domestic sources and the MIC and let that lead people to the truth. I ALWAYS mention Israel. I point it out as the main reason why we have trouble in the first place and what a stupid idea it is. And I use the fact that most people know nothing of it to prove my point.

[NOTALOWBROW]

Alex Jones may not be too bad sometimes (except when talkin illuminati) but some of his followers are just as bad as the sheeple.

They are sheeple for Alex Jones instead of Bush and for that I am grateful. Now if Americans as a collective (in that blissy state of groupthink no less) could line up and be sheeple for Ron Paul, we might just stand a chance against the rabid war mongers. Just line right up little sheeple, we can't do this without you.

[Irie Dave]

My eyes glaze over when the Illuminati stuff comes up so I've never even checked out his site or heard his radio program. Most "truthers" I know around here are into him though. I can understand (sort of) why he's chosen to be more quiet about Zionism - but is it necessary to focus on things that are unprovable and sound really whacky? Thanks to all the Illuminati hooplah (and I say this believing that the Catholic Church has never been innocent of war crime), "911 truthers" are labeled idiots. It's hard to even bring it up without being laughed at.

Agreed, this shit is ridiculous. & Alex will not talk about Zionism because he is a Zionist, a crypto-Zionist. He won't mention that Palestine's under military occupation & makes it out to be just a "beef" like the rest of the mainstream media does. I think it has something to do with his Christianity, he's sympathetic to Israel I think even though many Christians are not & are completely anti-Zionist. There's something taboo about the subject for him & I have a feeling it's his issue, not listeners' ability not to handle it. A lot of other 'patriots' have followed his lead, it's pretty frustrating. All they end up doing is pointing as semi-ficitional enemies, how does that "do good" in comparison w/identifying the actual individuals, agencies & other nations responsible.

[NOTALOWBROW]

[ There's something taboo about the subject for him & I have a feeling it's his issue, not listeners' ability not to handle it. A lot of other 'patriots' have followed his lead, it's pretty frustrating. All they end up doing is pointing as semi-ficitional enemies, how does that "do good" in comparison w/identifying the actual individuals, agencies & other nations responsible.

I tend to agree with you. I'm not familiar enough with AJ's work to know if he identifies as a Zionist - but whatever the case he obviously has an issue with standing up for what he knows to be true. My guess is he's lacking courage. And doesn't realize that by remaining silent (or quiet) about the huge injustice being waged on the Palestinians, he is complicit with it (if he is aware and we know he is). And how is that different than being an outright "agent?"

It's so important that we muster our courage to speak the truth and nothing but the truth - even when doing so is dangerous! Otherwise we become propagators of disinfo - even when it's not our intention to do this. This is a challenge to all of us, but those who are in the public eye really have a responsibility to be messengers of the Raw Truth. That's all people need right now - nothing more and nothing less.

(PROPS to Ry in this regard. I really appreciate people who lay it all out there, fearlessly.

[NOTALOWBROW]

I agree with you Ry, I guess I'm just putting out the view between AJ's and yours. I know it all leads to Israel, but I guess I've internalized it in a way so I can explain it to people and not come off as a Jew-hater. It's different being from the middle-east. Trust me. You know how frustrating it is to have people with IQ's 20 points below me look at me like I'm stupid and/or crazy? I'm constantly dumbing myself down for others. I guess I'd rather give them a bite that gets them thinking, than give them something that they will flat our reject. When I say there are other elements, I'm not assigning a value to each element because I truly don't know, but it's easier to point to domestic sources and the MIC and let that lead people to the truth. I ALWAYS mention Israel. I point it out as the main reason why we have trouble in the first place and what a stupid idea it is. And I use the fact that most people know nothing of it to prove my point.

GamerS, I have a friend who is a renowned visual artist (teaches at prestigious universities) and is also a very well known Oud player (we are collaborating on the antiwar CD I am recording). Being of Middle Eastern heritage (not sure where his family is from) he is very uncomfortable talking about politics in public places. I doubt he could even come on a forum like this. He says what he thinks but only if he has to - he certainly isn't looking for the opportunity, and I don't blame him. Before Sept 11 he was booked solid all the time and getting top dollar as a musician. Now he struggles to find any gigs at all. I won't be surprised if he asks to remain anonymous on the music we're doing together.

There are others ways to help the cause - we all know you are doing your part just for having the courage to come on this site and speak the truth.

[Ry]

I'm proud of you for stepping up and saying this shit because it needs to be said, the entire "truth" movement is filled with folks who want to minimize its role and maximize the 'jesuit, papacy' nonsense.

lol you should see my earlier posts on that.
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and see this about the lol illuminati

and this debunking the typical junk you here. anf HERE is my open challenge to illuminati idiots you can now throw in all the black pope nuts and numerology nuts in there as well I guess.

I think it has something to do with his Christianity, he's sympathetic to Israel I think even though many Christians are not & are completely anti-Zionist. There's something taboo about the subject for him & I have a feeling it's his issue,

I have floated this idea up as well but then I think it is his listeners and sponsors. The guy is in Texas and surrounded by holy rollers some of his sponsors even talk about biblical prophecy. But could be a case that it is both. Because he did start off by parroting extremist Christian Preachers like Tex Marrs and hosting all those kooky videos.

I agree with you Ry, I guess I'm just putting out the view between AJ's and yours. I know it all leads to Israel, but I guess I've internalized it in a way so I can explain it to people and not come off as a Jew-hater. It's different being from the middle-east. Trust me. You know how frustrating it is to have people with IQ's 20 points below me look at me like I'm stupid and/or crazy? I'm constantly dumbing myself down for others. I guess I'd rather give them a bite that gets them thinking, than give them something that they will flat our reject. When I say there are other elements, I'm not assigning a value to each element because I truly don't know, but it's easier to point to domestic sources and the MIC and let that lead people to the truth. I ALWAYS mention Israel. I point it out as the main reason why we have trouble in the first place and what a stupid idea it is. And I use the fact that most people know nothing of it to prove my point.

Yes I know how that is. You know I am not a Jew hater and I think that I dont even get accused of that. Really how many times have you seen someone come here and try to say that? They wont do it on an open forum where they can control the debate and have the last word. The people who say that kind of stuff know that it is not true they are just using it as a smear tactic. On an open forum they would be forced to face the facts and get totally owned. I find myself constantly defending a religion I dont believe in and an ethnicity that I am not part of from creeps like DBS and racist types including Zionists. I was on the air two days ago explaining how the conflicts generated by religous "crap" in Israel act as a cash-cow for the MIC and churches-as-businesses. People really need to seperate Israel from Jews in General. Israel is a NATION. Jews are just a group of people who believe in a religion or hereditarily identify with a group of people who hold to a religion. Blaming Jews for what Israel does is as silly as blaming Americans (All of them) for what our government has done. Actually it is worse than than. It would be like blaming all white people for what the Nazis did instead of the Nazis. This is the big problem. Talking about ZIonism has to come with a disclaimer.

You have to sit and explain away the charges of anti-semitism for 20 minutes before you can even start talking. And that is why it is hard to talk about it for some. For me it is hard not to talk about it. Because Zionism is the backbone behind these wars the occupation in Palestine Billions of US dollars and yes 911.

[Redelicious]

something taboo about the subject for him & I have a feeling it's his issue, not listeners' ability not to handle it. A lot of other 'patriots' have followed his lead, it's pretty frustrating. All they end up doing is pointing as semi-ficitional enemies, how does that "do good" in comparison w/identifying the actual individuals, agencies & other nations responsible

I agree with this. It is a problem with him and his religion. And will tell you why I think it is him. What was most striking to me is that I went back to the March 17 interview this is from and the part where that is in this clip about Zionism has been cut. They took it down. Now I look at other Genisus CN shows that do talk about Zionism and the best one would be Rense but that guy also talks about seeing ghosts and ET. Why do they have to attach so much garbage to the guy who talks about Zionism the most? Alex just will not admit the lopsided nature of the occupation of Palestine and when Israel invaded Lebanon Alex talked about Mexico. (Steve Watson and others links to a few things about it.) WRH was the best they were linking to articles left and right about the invasion the use of DU, cluster bombs etc. A lot of it went right back to this site. So this is just one site but that shows something. So many WRH links went right back here about Lebanon others went to wakeupfromyourslumber rawstroy Mparent777 etc the thing is it was only a handful of bloggers. There just are not that many people talking about it. That is the problem We have to many chicken shits.

Alex has said some pretty stupid things about gay people in the past and he supported the lies of the Russian Oligarchs they basically Never talk about Russia unless it is to smear Putian. So I agree that I think it is not a problem of the listeners it is a problem with Alex. He either doesn't know about it enough, or he does not want to lose his ultra Christian Sponsors. But I don't think he is a Zionist. He is not the kind of scum bag that supports killing children. He is just not brave enough to talk about it. The man fears for his life I believe. And that right there could cause him to get in a "car wreck." But you know what screw him. It is not up to Alex Jones. We dont have to get him to say it. No one has to listen to him.

But I support him for one big reason. Alex supports Ron Paul and that is my biggest issue right now. So as long as he is doing that I am fine with him. But this anti-neocons is my favorite site.

[GamerS]

Ry, and Grace, thanks for understanding my position. I feel I can rarely speak my mind to people, I'm always judged as slanted. However, I just got done with a friend from church and we watched Peace Propoganda and the promised land. She already wants to vote for Paul, but I told her no, I don't want to influence her like that. I want her to understand more and decide on her own from her own understanding. She was shocked to learn the truth about Israel, a truth which has been hidden by the church and the media. She also asked me about impending attacks, and I mentioned the put options, but also told her I would be happy to declare myself a raving lunatic on the 22nd.

I've even lost some friends and family members over this. I will not concede to evil to placate others sensibilities. I have a friend I've known since we were 11 years old but now he works for an Israeli IT firm in S. FL and is totally brainwashed. Yeah, trust some Israelis you just met and don't trust the friend of over 20 years.

I swear one of these days I'm gonna say "Free Palestine!" to the Israelis at my local mall kiosks, I'm just working up the nerve. Yes, they're still there. And they own almost ALL the kiosks in my mall.

[Ricky]

Show her occupation 101 it is even better.