The Amero IS a real conspiracy. LOOK AT THE COINS.

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Post by ect » Thu Aug 16, 2007 6:50 am

Those coins are private issue numismatic concept coins that would be made by a private mint for "collectors". The design is cheesy, made by a computer and it looks like it. Flat fields, no detail. Lady Liberty looks like a homeless bag lady, quite fitting for an Amero.

Anyone can do this and anyone can trade them if they want. See that medal on your left, that's called the Libertas Americana Medal, very rare with an actual story behind it and it's beautiful in the opinion of collectors, so private collectors made re-strikes in limited quantities for collectors that can't afford millions.

In a sense, that's what the US dollar is. A private printing press that spits out paper for people to collect. The only difference between that and let's say a paper Amero, would be confidence. It's called fiat currency.

How do you build confidence in the Amero? You don't have to if people lose confidence in the dollar, then people will divest on their own, as they have been, for about 6 years now. Check your dollar charts.

In any case, the NAU, is also referred to as The Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America(SPP). They have a "myth vs. fact" page. Anyone who is concerned might want to tackle those facts to see if they truely are facts.

At first glance, it looks like they're trying to setup another "free market" monopoly. The so called free market hates competition.
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Post by adam1 » Thu Aug 16, 2007 7:09 am

It will not be overt. You may still have three seperate states to give the illusion of independance, but when politicians are bought - it doesn't matter anyway.

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Post by number9 » Thu Aug 16, 2007 11:28 am

All I can say is Americans never give up your guns and ammo, and when the time comes, take it out on those that caused this problem in the first place...

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Post by funk » Thu Aug 16, 2007 11:51 pm

I mention North American Union to people here and they just stand there, blinking. :?
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Post by The Beam Doc » Fri Aug 17, 2007 1:35 am

to be honest, I don't see the NAU ever happening, the U.S already get what they need from Canada and Mexico and NAFTA is already in place. Creating a NAU is a waste of time. The Europeans did it because they had no choice, there are dozens of countries sharing the same land mass so using a common currency has made it much easier for them seeing as how they are so close to each other and there are so many of them, thus making trade much easier. Also I think it would conflict with england seeing as how Canada is in the common wealth, but I don't know if this is a factor. The world already uses the U.S. dollar as the standard as well. And remember, Canada and Mexico are not as productive as the U.S. is. For example, it would take 50 Americans to build 200 cars but the same amount of Canadians to build 150 cars. Thats not a real ratio but it paints a picture. So foreigners are obviously going to invest in the more productive note. So to the Americans it would be like de-valuing their own currency despite there being 2 extra countries using the same currency, you may end up seeing foreign investors looking elsewhere. Thats just my take.
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Post by Ed » Fri Aug 17, 2007 10:45 am

is it really better for trade though? i'm sceptical of the EU. I personally believe it benefits large rich businesses and corporations which will find it easier to spread their products , and although this creates more jobs, the nature of capitalism means that this will create many jobs for people at low wages. therefore increasing the gap between the rich and poor once again. making most working people like more like the people of a communist state in comparision.
For example - the number of people enetering the UK to work in the last few years has increased to few hundred thousand yearly. before that is was only tens of thousands entering the UK every year. Everyone realise how many immigrants are coming in. They think it's ok as they think that wasters here are not gonna do the jobs, let's let other people in. but it brings down people's wages, whether they were already immgrants here or born in the UK.
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Post by Iconoclast » Fri Aug 17, 2007 1:26 pm

It's from the Hal Turner show..... of course it isn't going to be real.
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Post by Ed » Fri Aug 17, 2007 10:24 pm

the amero , the euro... the NAU or the EU, it does't matter... our governments are still trying to manipulate us. maybe these won't be so bad. but maybe it allows the money manipulators to work on a larger scale... and also gives them more opportunities to rape us.
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Post by Drew J » Mon Sep 03, 2007 1:58 pm

!!! Breaking News !!!

"THE AMERO" IS REAL;
I HAVE ONE TO PROVE IT!

UNITED STATES, CANADA AND MEXICO TO BE MERGED INTO SINGLE NEW ENTITY NAMED NORTH AMERICAN UNION!

By: Hal Turner
http://www.halturnershow.com/AmeroCoinArrives.html


Three weeks ago, I published a brief snippet on the front page of my web site reporting the governments of the US Canada and Mexico are conspiring in secret to merge the three nations into a new entity called the North American Union.

There has been much talk of this on various internet blogs for over a year. Most of those blogs have been smeared as "conspiracy theorists" and have been largely ignored by the main stream.

What prompted my interest in the issue was money: I was sent professional images of actual AMERO coins by someone in the US Treasury! The person included a note saying they like my radio show and are frightened by what's been going on in secret within our government.

This Treasury Department person was outraged that our country was beginning to coin money as part of a merger that would do away with our country, via a merger the American public knew nothing about!

When I got the professional images of the AMERO coin, I was finally intrigued enough to make mention of it on my web site. My site has gotten over 20 Million visits in the last couple years and is becoming more popular because of the brutal honesty and timely delivery of news that folks don't find elsewhere. This story about AMERO coins would fit my niche of breaking news, so I ran a snippet of a story.

As part of my report, I included the professional images sent to me by the Treasury person. They appear below:

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I also mentioned that very pricey "Collector Proofs" of the coins were also being Minted in Silver and Gold, and I posted an image of one such Silver Proof, shown below:

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The story went on to say that the US Government has intentionally overspent itself for the purpose of irreversibly Bankrupting the country. The idea is that they will drive the country into economic failure, then when millions of Americans are panicking at the prospect, offer them a solution of merging the three countries as "the only possible way" to avoid losing everything.

They will force Canada into the merger by telling them the US currency they hold and rely upon will be worthless and the only way Canada can even hope to salvage any of the funds is to join the NAU.

They will sell it to the Mexican people by saying it will instantly improve their buying-power and quality of life.

In reality, the value of the US and Canadian dollars will be significantly reduced to counter the worthless peso being absorbed. People in the US and Canada will suffer great financial loss while Mexicans will see significant gain. In the meantime, the financial elite and the politicians they own will make out like bandits!

That's the reason politicians are doing this: to get rich for themselves and their financial elite pals.

The folks in power within government and their buddies in Banking and finance know that in any currency switch, some lose big while others gain big. Really big! In fact, folks with foreknowledge of such a switch can make hundreds-of-millions, perhaps even billions for themselves overnight. Those without foreknowledge (common folks like you and me) usually end up being wiped out.

INSTANT, FULL BLAST "SPIN"

I published the images and the small story and went to bed. I had no idea what my little story would do.

Within a matter of hours, there was a full blown effort to discredit my story and the images as fake.

I was accused of lying. I was accused of having "photoshopped" the images by creating them in Adobe Photoshop.

Within a couple days, a basic web site for AMERO "FANTASY COINS" was erected on the internet and word of that site was spread quickly. The site contained the same images as I had run on my front page, so clearly whatever "SPIN" was happening was being driven by others who also had the professional images.

There was intense effort to claim the whole idea of these coins was a fantasy and there was absolutely no truth to them whatsoever. That effort to "spin" the story out of existence worked. Folks quickly lost interest. I did not.

Get me the real thing by any means necessary

I reached out to the person in the Treasury who first alerted me to the coins. That person told me "The shit hit the fan around here when your story ran." The person went on to say "They told everyone in all the Mints that anyone revealing information about the AMERO would be fired and perhaps even criminally prosecuted for endangering national security."

Ahhhh yes, the grand old catch-all of national security. When they wheel that one out, you just KNOW they're pissed off about something!

I told the Treasury person that the only way anyone might believe this is happening, is for me to actually get one of the coins. The Treasury guy balked. He said "there's no way to get one without stealing it."

I though about that for a moment. . . . . then decided that if my government is concealing the actual Minting of coins for a new sovereign entity which may end up with power over me, but which I haven't been told about, then that government deserves whatever gets done to it.

I told the Treasury person to get me an Amero by any means necessary - even if that meant stealing it. The Treasury person said it would require them to think about for awhile and if it could be done, I would get one in the mail.

I waited. And waited. Frankly, after about three weeks, I lost track of the story -- until today. A real AMERO coin arrived at my home in the mail this afternoon!

The real thing arrives!

Today, I received a single 20 AMERO coin in the mail. A real coin. Real metal, really MINTED by the US Mint in Denver, CO. The proof that it is being Minted in Denver is that the coin is stamped with the Mint Identity letter "D" on the bottom right of the side with the eagle just like regular US coins already in circulation today!

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Please note the letter "D" stamped below and to the right of the Planet earth at the bottom right of the coin in this photo. That "D" stands for the United States Mint at Denver, CO.


VIDEO!

So that you can see this is a real, metal coin, I have made a small video of me holding the coin, turning it, then dropping it on a wooden table top so you can hear what it sounds like when it hits.

Download the Windows Media Video here
http://www.halturnershow.com/The-Amero.wmv

I WAS RIGHT!

I stand vindicated. All those who claimed I fabricated the images now owe me an apology. All those who claimed these were "fantasy" coins can now explain why anyone in their right mind would spend Millions of dollars to create the rare and expensive professional dies and plates necessary for minting coins that will not be issued?

The simple truth is, the coins are real. The plan to merge the US, Canada and Mexico is real. Our government is lying about it and the fact they are minting money at the Denver Mint bearing the name of Union of North America is proof.

So America, Canada and Mexico, our governments are betraying us and planning to merge our countries without our knowledge or consent, or by financial disaster they bring-on intentionally. What are we going to do about it?

For my part, the Second Amendment comes to mind.

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Post by Drew J » Mon Sep 03, 2007 2:00 pm

Congratulations, Hal! You have just admitted to receiving stolen property of the Federal government through the mail!

Good job exposing we liars who said this was all a joke.

---------------- Hal Turner Responds:

Yes, I did just admit to receiving what you call "stolen property of the federal government." I knew that before I wrote what I wrote.

Now think about what you just wrote.

In order for the government to prosecute me, they will have to ADMIT the coin is real and admit it was their property. Once they make the charge, they will have made those admissions and at that point I will have been proved 100% correct.

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