General Question: What will happen?

[Int'l man of mystery]

To all the forum,

Iran is rationing its petrol, we've heard rumours of the next 9/11, Aipac's time is running out, Israeli Military Generals have been saying that there will be a big summer war, UK being hostile to Anti-AngloImperialism Russia, Turkey eyeing Iraq, Saudi Arabia & Iran & The West sponsoring terror in Iraq... etc.

Some have said world war 3. If you mean world war in the sense of unlimited battlefronts then I think that's farfetched.
Most say there will be a massive middle east war, with Israel getting the US and UK involved... is that the case? Or are things going to be more gradual and discreet. Will economic blockade replace war? Or will nothing happen at all?

Are the neo-cons ever going to tire of helping Israel?

Even if there is another 9/11, will people care? Will people care if there's a war against Iran? Will there be civil tension?

What are your thoughts? What will happen in the future with this Zionist bullshit in general?

A false flag would be necessary, but it isn't necessary for it to be on American soil, in order to get the ball rolling.

The Mossad could stage an attack on Israel, then blame it on Syria and Hezbollah. Israel would then invade Lebanon and Syria, to engage both. Thereafter Iran would then come to Syria's aid against Israel, due to their mutual defense agreement. The US would then come to Israel's aid against Iran.

Kurdish rebels could also launch a terrorist attack in Turkey, due to Turkey's attacks on them. Turkey would then launch a large-scale invasion against the Kurds in Iraq.

[adam1]

I'm with the international man of mystery :D
I think the people who have thought "world war 3" are a bit too pessemistic. And then of course, the imperialist nations could end up being more concerned with fighting their own domestic dissidence than enforcing imperialistic foreign policy.

The reason I asked the question is because I wonder how I should and how I will be living my life in a few years time.

Everyone's experienced a feeling of helplessness which is of course, illusional - only bred by the enemy. Though it is bloody hard to organise things when there is no legitimate opposition movement.

In Britain in the past, the Labour party, even though always representing imperialism in one form or another, did have its benefits to some of the population, and many left wing people's movements emanated from the more 'radical' (humane) elements of the Labour Party. But now the Labour Party is openly imperialist, as is the conservative party. There is no big movement anymore. I aren't prepared to be surrounded by drones!

I could always move to another country, but would that be the right thing to do? Doesn't my responsibility lie with where I am? If so how do I live in a society that is getting worse and worse by the day? We can speculate what will happen in the future but how am I to make decisions as a dissident citizen based on those?

It's too tricky! Somebody help! lol

[NOTALOWBROW]

I could always move to another country, but would that be the right thing to do? Doesn't my responsibility lie with where I am? If so how do I live in a society that is getting worse and worse by the day? We can speculate what will happen in the future but how am I to make decisions as a dissident citizen based on those?

It's too tricky! Somebody help! lol

You'll know when/if you should leave your country. I think we're all waiting to see how things unfold. We're at a place where it could go either way. But until we know for certain that it's only going to get worse I think it's best to remain optimistic. Leave when all your optimism is gone. And in the meantime prepare for the "what ifs" - while believing (or trying to believe) in a positive outcome. We have a lot to be optimistic about. People ARE starting to wake up and our little movement is growing every day.

If another Zionist is elected US president, I am going to leave the US with my family. That will be my own deciding factor. I don't want to raise my child in a corrupt and dying America. It's just too heart wrenching to witness up close like this. I'd rather complain from afar if that happens.

[funk]

I think that because now that even more of the world is watching, and perhaps more informed every day, it would be the dumbest thing they've ever done.
I think the Neocons' number would be up then, because the tide of popular opinion, yes even in the US, would turn against them.
Especially as the internet fervour grows.
I mean really, who the hell still watches CNN or Fox? The majority?
I'm starting to doubt it.
I just hope time is on our side...

[Verbos]

I think GW is obsessed with power and will not stop on his own. So what is the next step?

[Ian]

I could always move to another country, but would that be the right thing to do? Doesn't my responsibility lie with where I am? If so how do I live in a society that is getting worse and worse by the day? We can speculate what will happen in the future but how am I to make decisions as a dissident citizen based on those?

It's too tricky! Somebody help! lol

You'll know when/if you should leave your country. I think we're all waiting to see how things unfold. We're at a place where it could go either way. But until we know for certain that it's only going to get worse I think it's best to remain optimistic. Leave when all your optimism is gone. And in the meantime prepare for the "what ifs" - while believing (or trying to believe) in a positive outcome. We have a lot to be optimistic about. People ARE starting to wake up and our little movement is growing every day.

If another Zionist is elected US president, I am going to leave the US with my family. That will be my own deciding factor. I don't want to raise my child in a corrupt and dying America. It's just too heart wrenching to witness up close like this. I'd rather complain from afar if that happens.

I wrote a big reply to this earlier today, and must have closed out the window on accident = ( Anyway, thxs for the original post since this has been on my mind alot lately. I'm w/GFD, I'm leaving if another Zionist is elected. But where would my loyalty lie, if not with America? All this stuff to think about... I was also wondering what other people think about Russia and China, possibly evn India's involvement would be when shit hits the fan? This country will be WIDE open, Mexico could overthrow us if they wanted to. I mean, if you think about the US' reluctance to get involved in WW2, would't the same go for other major sovereign nations nowadays? If I were China or Russia and America attacked another MidEast country with out international authorization and unprovoked; I'd be launching an offensive right on American soil. That's just me... Thanks again for the post ; )

[Int'l man of mystery]

I wrote a big reply to this earlier today, and must have closed out the window on accident = ( Anyway, thxs for the original post since this has been on my mind alot lately. I'm w/GFD, I'm leaving if another Zionist is elected. But where would my loyalty lie, if not with America? All this stuff to think about... I was also wondering what other people think about Russia and China, possibly evn India's involvement would be when shit hits the fan? This country will be WIDE open, Mexico could overthrow us if they wanted to. I mean, if you think about the US' reluctance to get involved in WW2, would't the same go for other major sovereign nations nowadays? If I were China or Russia and America attacked another MidEast country with out international authorization and unprovoked; I'd be launching an offensive right on American soil. That's just me... Thanks again for the post ; )

With regards to Russia, China and India, the neo-cons probably have plans to ally with (or use) their enemies against them.

Russia right now, seems to be having some issues with the UK. If the Kurds and the Turks go at it, the ensuing conflict might also bring in others as well, depending on how crafty the Kurds get in their guerilla tactics against Turkey. This is right next door to Russia. If it spills over into Russia, how're they going to feel about it? It's likely they'd invade Turkey and probably Northern Iraq. How're the neo-cons going to feel about Russia moving into their territory? They'd probably go to war with them.

If an Islamic revolution happens in Pakistan because of Musharraf's political blunders, how's that going to alter Pakistan's relationship with India? more war? If so, the US forces would then start sending a lot more of their forces through the Pacific. It starts to interfere with China's "economic prosperity", and so they start setting up blockades against the US. The US attacks them, and there's another war. North Korea would have to get involved, and they'd be on China's side, and the US would probably use South Korea against them.

Africa's got its host of conflicts too, with countries like Sudan, Ehtiopia and Somalia.

Finally, we have Saudi Arabia, right in the middle of everything. With its aging rulers, and rivalries underneath, and wars going on all around them, a revolution would appear to be more and more likely. The US would of course step in, as it loses its stability, and try to secure its oil interests there.

So, we currently have 3 seperate conflicts looming on the horizon, which could potentially grow out of control:

1) Israel vs. Syria

2) Turkey vs. the Kurds

3) Civil war in Pakistan

[adam1]

But the Anglo-American Neo-Con Empire would have to accept some losses otherwises it risks losing everything.
The Israelis are nuts though, like their evangelical funders - so there will be major losses somewhere in the ZionAxis.

[Ian]

I wrote a big reply to this earlier today, and must have closed out the window on accident = ( Anyway, thxs for the original post since this has been on my mind alot lately. I'm w/GFD, I'm leaving if another Zionist is elected. But where would my loyalty lie, if not with America? All this stuff to think about... I was also wondering what other people think about Russia and China, possibly evn India's involvement would be when shit hits the fan? This country will be WIDE open, Mexico could overthrow us if they wanted to. I mean, if you think about the US' reluctance to get involved in WW2, would't the same go for other major sovereign nations nowadays? If I were China or Russia and America attacked another MidEast country with out international authorization and unprovoked; I'd be launching an offensive right on American soil. That's just me... Thanks again for the post ; )

With regards to Russia, China and India, the neo-cons probably have plans to ally with (or use) their enemies against them.

Russia right now, seems to be having some issues with the UK. If the Kurds and the Turks go at it, the ensuing conflict might also bring in others as well, depending on how crafty the Kurds get in their guerilla tactics against Turkey. This is right next door to Russia. If it spills over into Russia, how're they going to feel about it? It's likely they'd invade Turkey and probably Northern Iraq. How're the neo-cons going to feel about Russia moving into their territory? They'd probably go to war with them.

If an Islamic revolution happens in Pakistan because of Musharraf's political blunders, how's that going to alter Pakistan's relationship with India? more war? If so, the US forces would then start sending a lot more of their forces through the Pacific. It starts to interfere with China's "economic prosperity", and so they start setting up blockades against the US. The US attacks them, and there's another war. North Korea would have to get involved, and they'd be on China's side, and the US would probably use South Korea against them.

Africa's got its host of conflicts too, with countries like Sudan, Ehtiopia and Somalia.

Finally, we have Saudi Arabia, right in the middle of everything. With its aging rulers, and rivalries underneath, and wars going on all around them, a revolution would appear to be more and more likely. The US would of course step in, as it loses its stability, and try to secure its oil interests there.

So, we currently have 3 seperate conflicts looming on the horizon, which could potentially grow out of control:

1) Israel vs. Syria

2) Turkey vs. the Kurds

3) Civil war in Pakistan

I believe these and a few other happenings would break the UN. Once the UN is out of the way, 100's of international conflicts and even civil wars would break out across the globe. Think of tiny places like Belize. The Guatemalans would alm ost surely invade and take back that country if Britain was busy in the Middle East and around the globe.. The possibilities are endless.

[Int'l man of mystery]

I believe these and a few other happenings would break the UN. Once the UN is out of the way, 100's of international conflicts and even civil wars would break out across the globe. Think of tiny places like Belize. The Guatemalans would alm ost surely invade and take back that country if Britain was busy in the Middle East and around the globe.. The possibilities are endless.

Indeed. There would be wars everywhere, and at the end of the day, every major metropolis in the world (or at least quite a few of them) would probably look something like this:



But, that's probably the worst case scenario, as it requires quite a few things to go wrong at around the same time.