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riots spread to other parts of london
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serious?"Whenever any form of government becomes destructive of ... [Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness], it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government." –Thomas Jefferson
Re: riots spread to other parts of london
Hilarious gif.Dissent wrote:
NATO bombed libya, killing 85. To me this feels related, like a diversion.
Check your slides
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bipolarbear57
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Re: riots spread to other parts of london
I think a great many of these incidents were incited for and facilitated by agent provaceteurs and the police. Good question: Have they targeted a police station in all the melee? All the "battle" terminology makes great headlines. Obviously the police have the rioters out - armed. Martial law will show the rest of the West how to put down any form of dissent. They'll lump peaceful demonstrators in with the rowdy bunches and just shut everybody's civil rights down and the MSM will stenographically "report" what the the police & politicians say... Problem, reaction, f**kin solution!
Johann Von Goethe, once said, there are none more hopelessly enslaved, than those who falsely believe they are free.
"...Government is best which governs not at all; and when men are prepared for it, that will be the kind of government which they will have."
. For government is an expedient, by which men would fain succeed in letting one another alone; and, as has been said, when it is most expedient, the governed are most let alone by it. - Henry David Thoreau
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"...Government is best which governs not at all; and when men are prepared for it, that will be the kind of government which they will have."
. For government is an expedient, by which men would fain succeed in letting one another alone; and, as has been said, when it is most expedient, the governed are most let alone by it. - Henry David Thoreau
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."
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Whirled Peas
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Re: riots spread to other parts of london
yeah cuz they haven't done this beforebipolarbear57 wrote:I think a great many of these incidents were incited for and facilitated by agent provaceteurs and the police.
They'll lump peaceful demonstrators in with the rowdy bunches and just shut everybody's civil rights down and the MSM will stenographically "report" what the the police & politicians say... Problem, reaction, f**kin solution!
I completely agree
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bipolarbear57
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Thanks.... What say you Ry?
Johann Von Goethe, once said, there are none more hopelessly enslaved, than those who falsely believe they are free.
"...Government is best which governs not at all; and when men are prepared for it, that will be the kind of government which they will have."
. For government is an expedient, by which men would fain succeed in letting one another alone; and, as has been said, when it is most expedient, the governed are most let alone by it. - Henry David Thoreau
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."
Tenth Amen < AX >
"...Government is best which governs not at all; and when men are prepared for it, that will be the kind of government which they will have."
. For government is an expedient, by which men would fain succeed in letting one another alone; and, as has been said, when it is most expedient, the governed are most let alone by it. - Henry David Thoreau
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."
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Re: riots spread to other parts of london
Have to admit that seeing scenes like this made me feel glad I am no longer in the UK. On the other hand it makes me worried about what kind of country I will return to. I mean seriously, what leads people to be so violent? Looking at the wider picture here - people in Britain can debate over the more specific reasons for why this erupted but there is a problem in Britain with the ever increasing wealth gap and the state of the economy. It may not be why these riots kicked off but certainly make these incidents more likely. HUge numbers of youths and thugs, as horrible as they may be, want to behave in this way and British people should be asking themselves why has it come to this??? I have to admit, at first I was taken aback at the scale of these riots but when i think about it it's not surprising if you know Britain. I've seen these kind of guys kick off before but on a smaller scale so it was only matter of time before something like this happened.
I think there will be more organised and legitimate protests to come. I wonder if the government will fall apart. The cuts haven't taken full effect yet in Britain and another recession could be looming on the horizon. Not looking pretty to say the least.
I think there will be more organised and legitimate protests to come. I wonder if the government will fall apart. The cuts haven't taken full effect yet in Britain and another recession could be looming on the horizon. Not looking pretty to say the least.
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It does seem that the original cause got hijacked. and then the PM called for "much more police on the streets and even more robust action." Taking advantage of a crisis to increase your budget and overall control.. hmm it's possible and it's not like it hasn't happened before.Whirled Peas wrote:Do you think there were provocateurs that started this? It seems any peaceful protest that gets out of hand this quickly usually means the cops are looking to justify a bigger budget (G20, Vancouver Stanley cup riot). This area seems depressed and possibly they want to "clean it up" by burning and looting and then start all over, raise rents, kick the low income out, possibly put them in prisons (Prison Industrial Complex).
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Re: riots spread to other parts of london
If the rioters were attacking police stations, banks, government buildings, it would be one thing. What it has turned into along with the looting is just going to give the police/government the upper hand. They'll advice and scare people to stay in doors and come up with some sort of martial law solution which the media will convince the masses is necessary and focus on the criminal aspects like the looting.Raoul wrote:It does seem that the original cause got hijacked. and then the PM called for "much more police on the streets and even more robust action." Taking advantage of a crisis to increase your budget and overall control.. hmm it's possible and it's not like it hasn't happened before.
I think it is a hijack, like the guys in Tahrir Square who held up signs saying "Death to all Jews" in English
Covered faces are always a good indicator of a protest hijacking
Here is a guy from London
Why cover the face? People didn't cover their face during the Detroit riots or the LA riots.
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georgesmiley
Re: riots spread to other parts of london
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
heres what we have available in the uk
London riots: Baseball bat sales rocket by 6,000%
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-storie ... -23332792/
haha
heres what we have available in the uk
London riots: Baseball bat sales rocket by 6,000%
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-storie ... -23332792/
haha
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bipolarbear57
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London Riots: UK's summer job program for youth.
Welfare for cops too
Welfare for cops too
Johann Von Goethe, once said, there are none more hopelessly enslaved, than those who falsely believe they are free.
"...Government is best which governs not at all; and when men are prepared for it, that will be the kind of government which they will have."
. For government is an expedient, by which men would fain succeed in letting one another alone; and, as has been said, when it is most expedient, the governed are most let alone by it. - Henry David Thoreau
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."
Tenth Amen < AX >
"...Government is best which governs not at all; and when men are prepared for it, that will be the kind of government which they will have."
. For government is an expedient, by which men would fain succeed in letting one another alone; and, as has been said, when it is most expedient, the governed are most let alone by it. - Henry David Thoreau
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."
Tenth Amen < AX >