War By Deception on daily Paul

[Ry]

they dont know what to make of it because it makes the other theories look rediculous. yet they've been promoting some of the trash, misslies, peak oil, pods, thermite etc and now they just look stupid.

[Mgadapee]

That would be a relief. That also sounds stooopid. I was wondering if they would be opposed to something. They are hard to talk to, in my experience.

[Mgadapee]

You think the thermite is trash?

[Mgadapee]

Well, maybe I should say that the physical collapses of the towers and wtc 7 was not the result of Israelis in a van. There are 1000s of welded steel columns in those buildings, requiring 1000s of charges, considering the way the buildings go down. These are not in/out simple demo jobs - which can be done with less. Listen to Danny Jowenko talk about building 7. I trust the people in the nanothermite study. The data supporting nanothermite use, such as the preponderence of iron microspheres supports that (along with some remarkable air quality studies).

[PlutoCharon]

?? What's the criteria for 911blogger?

Why did you jump from discussing promotion of war by deception to aspects of 9/11 like thermite and Israelis?

Veterans Today is an unrelated blog as Ry says. That link you posted has a disclaimer saying it was an opinion they do not support. They have no-planer journalists in between the occasional good articles. But why would 911blogger need some sort of source outside youtube like VT or daily Paul? I don't understand. What's wrong with here?

Danny Jowenko is old news and he supports the OS. No offense Mgadapee, but are you from Sweden, Switzerland, Toronto, or TEL AVIV? Maybe even a settlement in the occupied Israeli West Bank? I am being serious because I'm sick of the wolves in sheep's clothing and I've encountered a lot of people with the same writing style as you who would fall into that category

[Mgadapee]

?? What's the criteria for 911blogger?

Why did you jump from discussing promotion of war by deception to aspects of 9/11 like thermite and Israelis?

Veterans Today is an unrelated blog as Ry says. That link you posted has a disclaimer saying it was an opinion they do not support. They have no-planer journalists in between the occasional good articles. But why would 911blogger need some sort of source outside youtube like VT or daily Paul? I don't understand. What's wrong with here?

Danny Jowenko is old news and he supports the OS. No offense Mgadapee, but are you from Sweden, Switzerland, Toronto, or TEL AVIV? Maybe even a settlement in the occupied Israeli West Bank? I am being serious because I'm sick of the wolves in sheep's clothing and I've encountered a lot of people with the same writing style as you who would fall into that category

Hi. It sounds to me like you haven't seen problems in your life. I live in a country and around people who want to "kill the Arabs" and who pass around joke emails to that effect, and its easy for them to slide back into their cozy chairs and forget any attempt at finding the real world. I am an individual who endeavors to promote "War of Deception", and when I hear someone say they don't believe in thermite, I have something to say about that.

And you think you have problems? I think you are full of yourself.

I see others re-post articles at 911blogger. I chose to do the same. I thought Veterans Today would give it a boost, actually. The Daily Paul as well. As I wrote above, I resubmitted as just the video - no thanks to you.

- Mark

p.s. And lest we forget, we still have the Jowenko interviews, regardless.

[Mgadapee]

Since the thermite got spilt on this page... I have been doing discussions lately, and just came across this one.
From 13:40 to 18:40 there is a top-notch series of slides on the thermite (following the section on molten metal).
If you look at it overall, I think you can see the scientific process being executed beautifully.
http://911debunkers.blogspot.com/2011/0 ... e-wtc.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Maybe not? Well, every truther has to form their own opinion.
I think truthers can get in trouble whenever they say they know how the explosives worked. I think there could have been a variety of things used, here. I think the best position to take is general - that there were explosives. I think the evidence of nano-thermite amongst whatever was used is pretty darned good. 911research has more on sol-gel technology. That also makes two items only available in high-tech us govt labs - the anthrax and the nano-thermite.

Talking about explosives...
AE911Truth: Tom Sullivan - Explosives Technician -- Loader
http://www.youtube.com/user/ae911truth? ... 5IgqJXyLbg" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

It's all good.
- Mark

[Ry]

You think the thermite is trash?

Absolutely its meaningless thermite is just iron oxide aka rust or iron in a fire, and aluminum to find it on the nano level when an aluminum plane ran into an iron core is totally meaningless. To not find it would be physically impossible.
There was plenty of other aluminum in the building as well to be sure. They didn't just cut the beans those building were BLOWN UP, they debris was tossed up and out away from the building. The bombs at the base shook the whole subway. That's not slow and quiet burning thermite. That's explosives, you know like the kinds found in vans in WTC 6 and on the GW bridge.

Professor Steven Jones who is at the certer on this thermite crap surrounded by teenage "researchers" and infobnlogwarriors also claimed the cold fusion bullshit, the perpetual motion bullshit and lol claimed to have found the bones of Jesus. He's a Mormon too. The guy is a nut.

With all the other better scientist to choose form or better writers, Alex Jones picks up Steven Jones and David Icke BECAUSE they're crazy and easy to debunk, he held up Charlie Sheen BECAUSE he's a quack. There were other celebrities, other writers, other scientist but Alex sensationalist Jones chooses the craziest ones he can find to present as the face of 911 truth. He is the king of the 911 kook movement.

Admittedly nano thermite is not on the same level of stupid as aliens, space beams, and bavarians, but it is like their 5th go at it for distraction media. It is the disinfo network.

[Mgadapee]

You think the thermite is trash?

Absolutely its meaningless thermite is just iron oxide aka rust or iron in a fire, and aluminum to find it on the nano level when an aluminum plane ran into an iron core is totally meaningless. To not find it would be physically impossible.

A disinfo network? What do the 7 people conducting that study have to gain? Are you saying these are the paid stooges? Like Thomas Eagar, the metallurgist - now that's an official spokesman. They couldn't get a civil engineer for that. Look, I think your position seems a little paranoid and even baseless.

The technology has definitely been there at us nuclear labs, like los alamos and lawrence livermore.
http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/analysi ... etech.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Here's a peer-reviewer of the article: (Have you read the paper?)
David L. Griscom, PhD
http://impactglassman.blogspot.com/2010 ... getic.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Here's more about this technology going into bomb making in jan, 2005
http://www.technologyreview.com/Nanotech/14105/?a=f" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

"Nanotechnology is grabbing headlines for its potential in advancing the life sciences and computing research, but the Department of Defense (DoD) found another use: a new class of weaponry that uses energy-packed nanometals to create powerful, compact bombs.

"With funding from the U.S. government, Sandia National Laboratories, the Los Alamos National Laboratory, and the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory are researching how to manipulate the flow of energy within and between molecules, a field known as nanoenergentics, which enables building more lethal weapons such as "cave-buster bombs" that have several times the detonation force of conventional bombs such as the "daisy cutter" or MOAB (mother of all bombs).

"Researchers can greatly increase the power of weapons by adding materials known as superthermites that combine nanometals such as nanoaluminum with metal oxides such as iron oxide, according to Steven Son, a project leader in the Explosives Science and Technology group at Los Alamos. "...

Now please bear in mind that these are the only labs in the world capable of applying sol-gel technology and making these things evenly and consistently to give them the power and speed they have. Thermate, for cutting steel, has to be mixed properly and applied properly to cut steel at all. Regular thermite won't do it. See Jon Cole's video where he makes his own thermate and cuts steel beams with it.

You cannot just throw together these ingredients. Not a chance.

[Ry]

no they're not paid stooges, I am saying the study is concluded. It's a no shit study. Of course they found nanno levels of thermite. No shit. Its the two most common metals in the buildings. That's an utterly meaningless statement. It's like saying by the way there was also concrete with co2 on it. SO what?!

it is taking a very well known event and casting a huge mystery over it. We don't have to look at scraps of metal to know the towers were blown up. It's on film you can watch them blowing up there are countless witnesses, and the police arrested people in vans packed with fucking bombs. To ignore that and pretend like finding aluminum on iron is a discovery when we have the planted passports, a huge paper trail of insider trading, a massive spy ring busted, genetically traced anthrax spores to out own labs, and fake Israeli moving and repair companies in the towers, IS a distraction. It's as stupid as saying hey cell phones might not have worked on flight 93. What a stupid class C argument. Why waste time on that crap when we've got men who were arrested with film of the first plane hitting, (who were also celebrating) proving prior knowledge.

let me explain something to the brain dead. Guess what else creates metal on the nano level of particles?... Blowing stuff to bits, hour infernos, and debris falling 110 stories to the ground. If aluminum is burning next to or on top of iron (which it must have) then there will be thermite. Put a nail in a beer can and toss it in a bond fire, you'll briefly have termite.