George Galloway supports Barack Obama...

Post by Ry » Mon Jan 07, 2008 11:23 pm

Apparently Galloway doesn:t know about Obama's Zionism and total support for Israel. He is looking only at Iraq. And even though Obama said the Iraq war was a mistake, he also said we would have to stay there until it was stable before we could leave. **hand smacks forehead**

adam1 · Post by **adam1** » Tue Jan 08, 2008 8:44 am

Basically...
Similar to his attitude to 'conspiracy theories'...
He has a tendancy to get too vocal about things he hasn't got a clue about, and stays silent where we need him the most.
And I wonder whats going on with Respect these days, ever since the SWP withdrew because they're so perfect, I haven't heard much from Respect, or Galloway for that matter, until THIS.

Post by **Evan** » Tue Jan 08, 2008 12:46 pm

There is no way he would ever support Paul. He's a Marxist. he's a hardore socialist.

weather it be zionism or communism (socialism) they both have the same goal-world domination, even if it seems like it's on a small(national or whatever) level.

I used to like Galloway, now i really don't like him.

Thats great, he's against zionism, but he supports a system that continues to enslave people.....so fuck him.

I know i'll get slammed by people in here but idc, socialism is probably as bad as zionism, and is easier to get people to swallow...but in the end you're still swallowing, and i refuse.

Post by **Lost Scribe** » Tue Jan 08, 2008 2:09 pm

real socialism is better than our fascism/capitalism

Post by **Phys** » Tue Jan 08, 2008 2:21 pm

Lost Scribe wrote:real socialism is better than our fascism/capitalism

What do you mean by real socialism?

Post by **Lost Scribe** » Tue Jan 08, 2008 3:11 pm

similar to what vietnam or china has, or what malaysia had during mahathir's reign...

i prefer individualist anarchy over anything in the world right now... tempered by optional Islam...

i think that's where the world will be a couple centuries from now...

Post by **Lost Scribe** » Tue Jan 08, 2008 3:13 pm

but i also agree with this:

http://www.alislam.org/library/books/re ... ion_2.html

Post by **NOTALOWBROW** » Tue Jan 08, 2008 4:04 pm

Lost Scribe wrote:real socialism is better than our fascism/capitalism

I am a Minarchist as I believe Jefferson was: "Were it left to me to decide whether we should have a government without newspapers, or newspapers without a government, I should not hesitate a moment to prefer the latter".

I basically agree with you. However I think the larger the government the more vulnerable it becomes to corruption and fascism.

What we have now is not true free market capitalism. It is a twisted form of corporate communism disguised as capitalist. It sucks. I hate it.

I agree that a socialist system can be alright so long as there is no corruption/fascism, but it always depends on the morality of who is in charge. Chavez, for instance, is a decent socialist leader but what are the chances that the next guy doesn't become hungry for power and make evil choices based on greed instead of love for his/her people? Chavez has really impressed me on that front but how many egos do you know who could handle that much power and not cave into it? Their system is not safeguarded against corruption so sooner or later the shit will hit the fan again.

The Constitution, if followed, works to keep the warlords, tyrants and power hungry at bay. It won't stop them completely, since money will always be corruptive to some degree (as long as people are unconscious greedy little jerks), but it will seriously take the wind out of their sails... at least until they find the loopholes in the system again which they are no doubt already doing (greedy bastards). Someone always wants to control the world. It is a game to them and no matter who is voted in their game will not just stop. This is the beginning for those of us who want an end to tyranny and war. We have a long way to go but I firmly believe that downsizing the government and stopping foreign aid are essential for our success. The AIPAC whores must go or shit, I will be leaving this country to avoid any more blood on my hands for paying for THEIR genocide.

Post by **Lost Scribe** » Tue Jan 08, 2008 4:47 pm

it's dictate by the people and their level of ignorance/awareness and their willingness to fight against corruption...

how many dirt poor mexicans protested the last election? for how long?

Post by Ry » Tue Jan 08, 2008 5:27 pm

Mexicans are dirt poor because of fascism but not because of capitalism, its socialism aka corporate welfare that is fucking them over. The businesses that create monopolies and destroy Mexican businesses and force people out of work etc are the way they are because of their ties to the state. That is not free market capitalism its nearly communism.