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KUCINICH: Demanding Documents on PR Contracts Used to "

Post by Tribulation » Tue Apr 24, 2007 9:05 pm

Demanding Documents on PR Contracts Used to "Sell" the War

Dennis Kucinich speaking from the Floor of the House

Feb 16, 2006

"Madam Speaker, the taxpayers of the United States of America have a right to know whether or not their tax dollars were or are being used to manipulate the news, falsify intelligence, or mislead the public.

"Very serious questions have been raised about a number of contracts that have been given to public relations firms, firms that then went ahead and devised a whole plan to try to sell the war in Iraq to the American people. I have introduced a resolution of inquiry [H. Res. 685] in the House of Representatives that demands all documents pertaining to contracts that the United States Government has signed with the intent to sell the war in Iraq.

"This resolution directs the President, the Secretary of State, and the Secretary of Defense to provide the House with certain documents relating to any entity which the United States has contracted with for public relations purposes concerning Iraq.

"The people of this country have a right to know if there was an effort to deliberately mislead them, and the taxpayers have a right to know how their tax dollars are being spent. Support the resolution of inquiry. Reclaim the power of Congress."

Insight and Action: Iraq

Legislation:

* H. Res. 685, demanding all documents pertaining to contracts that the United States Government has signed with the intent to sell the war in Iraq

http://www.kucinichforcongress.com/floo ... y16feb.php
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Post by Saint » Tue Apr 24, 2007 9:11 pm

Ry wrote:I wrote my rep Virgil Goode

I know this is a waste of time writing to a Bible thumbing, warmongering, fascist, bigot like you but I wanted to let you know that we are in full support of Impeaching Dick Cheney. And I hope you are next.
Wow..thats fucking classic! Classic!!!!
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Post by Irie Dave » Tue Apr 24, 2007 10:14 pm

Tribulation wrote:
Ry wrote:Same I support Impeaching Cheney (which kind of had to come from the opposition party) and I want Ron Paul for President.




http://kucinich.house.gov/SpotlightIssues/documents.htm

Kucinich is THE MAN - compare his BALLSY impeachment of the cheney scum to Pauls weak speech about the war where he can't even call the liars - liars:



"Hon. Ron Paul Of Texas
Before the U.S. House of Representatives

04/24/07 "ICH" ----- WASHINGTON: April 17, 2007 --- - All the reasons given to justify a preemptive strike against Iraq were wrong. Congress and the American people were misled.

Support for the war came from various special interests that had agitated for an invasion of Iraq since 1998. The Iraq Liberation Act, passed by Congress and signed into law by President Clinton, stated that getting rid of Saddam Hussein was official U.S. policy. This policy was carried out in 2003.

Congress failed miserably in meeting its crucial obligations as the branch of government charged with deciding whether to declare war. It wrongly and unconstitutionally transferred this power to the president, and the president did not hesitate to use it.

Although it is clear there was no cause for war, we just marched in. Our leaders deceived themselves and the public with assurances that the war was righteous and would be over quickly. Their justifications were false, and they failed to grasp even basic facts about the chaotic political and religious history of the region.

Congress bears the greater blame for this fiasco. It reneged on its responsibility to declare or not declare war. It transferred this decision-making power to the executive branch, and gave open sanction to anything the president did. In fact the founders diligently tried to prevent the executive from possessing this power, granting it to Congress alone in Article 1 Section 8 of the Constitution.

Today just about everyone acknowledges the war has gone badly, and 70% of the American people want it to end. Our national defense is weakened, the financial costs continue to drain us, our allies have deserted us, and our enemies are multiplying – not to mention the tragic toll of death and injury suffered by American forces.

Iraq is a mess, and we urgently need a new direction- but our leaders offer only hand wringing and platitudes. They have no clear-cut ideas to end the suffering and war. Even the most ardent war hawks cannot begin to define victory in Iraq.

As an Air Force officer serving from 1963-1968, I heard the same agonizing pleas from the American people. These pleas were met with the same excuses about why we could not change a deeply flawed policy and rethink the war in Vietnam. That bloody conflict, also undeclared and unconstitutional, seems to have taught us little despite the horrific costs.

Once again, though everyone now accepts that the original justifications for invading Iraq were not legitimate, we are given excuses for not leaving. We flaunt our power by building permanent military bases and an enormous billion-dollar embassy, yet claim we have no plans to stay in Iraq permanently. Assurances that our presence in Iraq has nothing to do with oil are not believed in the Middle East.

The argument for staying- to prevent civil war and bring stability to the region- logically falls on deaf ears.

If the justifications for war were wrong;

If the war is going badly;

If we can’t afford the costs, both human and economic;

If civil war and chaos have resulted from our occupation;

If the reasons for staying are no more credible than the reasons for going;

THEN…..

Why the dilemma? The American people have spoken, and continue to speak out, against this war. So why not end it? How do we end it? Why not exactly the way we went in? We just marched in, and we can just march out.

More good things may come of it than anyone can imagine. Consider our relationship with Vietnam, now our friendly trading partner. Certainly we are doing better with her than when we tried to impose our will by force. It is time to march out of Iraq and march home."[/url]
Bullshit, Paul calls them all liars and takes on the fed. Kucinich takes on Bush & Cheney & promotes a gun ban.
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Post by Redelicious » Wed Apr 25, 2007 2:34 am

Dennis is blaming Bush and Cheney like they did it magically. Paul points out its the whole congress and it started back before Bush was even in ofice when Clinton signed the Iraq Liberation Act which is true. Paul is more holistic than just blaming Buch Cheney and Rumsfeld the only three names Liberals can remember. Paul takes on the Fed and the CIA and he openly uses the term Neocons. Dennis takes a wennie in the ass for Israel so no matter what he says about Iraq he is not that great and he wants a gun ban.

He is not going to impeach Cheney look at the timing of this. He's had years to do it and now pulls a stunt during the primaries. Yeh ill support it but I know it will get killed in the Senate. Still it will force Hillary and Obama and Edwards to not vote on it because they cant vote no or yes on it. Only two or three senators will support it the rest are as AIPAC owns as Dennis.
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Cheney and ATC

Post by NoApartheid » Wed Apr 25, 2007 5:42 am

Dick Cheney is a traitor who works for Turkey. Dick Cheney follows his nose to the biggest contracts and defense budgets, and those are in the states surrounding israel.

Don't be so sure the Senate will not support this. We have been sending them reams of documents and pages of information on Cheneys crimes, as well as to the international police. Its got them quite upset and on the edge.

We now have the ear of Senator Leahy, Senator McCain, Senator Graham and that's a start.

They know that, or are starting to see that Dick Cheney is a physical traitor and this is not just about AIPAC.

Plus, most members of the Senate besides Clinton,abhor AIPAC and do not appreciate its abusive policies.



Also, if you really research Cheney alot you will see he's not too beneficial to the AIPAC lobby he's just their voice speaker. Cheney does not like Israelis that much although he's an Israeli partisan. Cheney was a Jesuit raised right-wing Catholic who has his own belief system.

And that goes hand in hand with defense contracts, he is loyal to the Military Industrial Complex....He committed treason and willfully sold his soul to the MIC and Turkey owns alot of those businesses...but so does Azerbaijan and other areas.

I think we can pull it off, and if we do get rid of Cheney once and for all, just the threat of impeachment on Bush will keep him and those damn propaganda spies from going off on Iran.

IMPEACHING Cheney who is a traitor, will expose the state secrets including the American Turkish Council, the Checnya group of Affairs, JINSA and it will bring down those right-wing Likud Zionists.

Think about the crimes that will be revealed during impeachment proceedings. They could go to jail for a very long time, because the international police is watching- this is why the French are being hammered and infiltrated.

Skarkozy a right wing Turkish Zionist is attempting to become president of France through vote fraud. And why else? To protect the very criminals the French German police are investigating so now it has become a global war...Surely that's not the last thing these bastards will try I know it! And then there's Patrick Fitzgerald why, why does anyone say he is controlled by Zionists? He loathes these likud Zionists and has prosecuted most of his cases about them. I think he fears the national security consequences of going too far, but I never seen anything wrong about him in his prosecuting abilities. I always encourage people to send evidence to Fitzgerald or the international cops because they will not leave it alone and will prosecute and get rid of this. Thank god Jack Abramoff is now bringing hundreds of these criminals down.
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Impeachment of Dick Cheney is very possible. We must pounce on it definitely

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Post by Irie Dave » Wed Apr 25, 2007 7:22 am

My letter:

I am a resident of your district who voted for you in the last election and I am strongly encouraging you to vote in support of Dennis Kucinich's House Resolution 333, the impeachment of Dick Cheney. Dennis Kucinich is correct in his assessment that Vice President Cheney is guilty of crimes in his actions of deliberately deceiving the public and lying about a threat of Iraq having weapons of mass destruction that was fictional. He was complicit and active in the promotion of knowingly false intelligence in order to justify the use of U.S. armed forces in a war with Iraq. This war has seriously underminded this nation's security and prosperity and has even jeopardized our future and it has claimed the lives of over 3,000 American troops and 653,000 innocent Iraqi citizens who had absolutely nothing to do with 9/11. The documented evidence that Mr. Kucinich has provided proves beyond a reasonable doubt that Mr. Cheney is guilty of this serious crime. Cheney's fabrications were part of a deliberate scheme and NOT a mistake. He was not simply just "wrong" he was lying and he needs to be held accountable. He also knowingly lied to and deceived the public about a fictional connection Saddam Hussein had with the mysterious organization known as Al-Queda which there was absolutely no evidence to support. I'll be basing my decision on who to vote for in the next election entirely on this issue so I hope you do the right thing and vote to impeach Dick Cheney.

I hope I didn't wait too long to do this, they haven't voted on it yet right? I'm gonna call them as well in a bit.
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Post by Ry » Wed Apr 25, 2007 8:10 am

good letter so glad people are taking action
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Post by Doktormartini » Thu Apr 26, 2007 3:27 pm

Kucinich is my MAN! If I was 60 and he wasn't married...I'd probably have sex with him.

Sadly, I doubt Cheney will get impeached :(

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Post by A » Thu Apr 26, 2007 9:32 pm

Dennis Kucinich!!!!!!!!!!

i have not heard anything about the guy.

I did here he was one of the few to oppose the war since the beginning.

He has my support.


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George Soros

Post by NoApartheid » Fri Apr 27, 2007 4:19 am

Folks don't be fooled by George Soros he is an anti-war Zionist but he still will not challenge AIPAC and is looking out for whats in the best interest of Israel


And if Israel's brutal military occupation of its neighbors is really in the best interest of Israel which is home to some of George Soros' friends, then hes really not going to do much to challenge it


I know that sounds harsh but its true with these guys.


The whole Zionism movement is complex and extremely apathetic.


It needed to move in and challenge the out of control Israel lobby years ago, but didn't


Just like the Arabs needed to challenge the Turkish lobby, but didn't


The result is what you see before you.

So just remember that next time someone says there's a quick 'feel good' solution

Such a thing does not exist, its built up over too long a time.


The Military Industrial Complex supports ethnic cleansing, ie: Zionism and demands it most of the time because it is very profitable


If we had confronted that in the 90s there would have not been the Kosovo massacre, another that nobody realizes

Those wars were manufactured by the MIC and most of the agents including Lockheed Martin, Boeing, etc actively own the news channels and networks

So they build the weapons, technology, and run the programming channels too giving an all-encompassing agenda

They will tolerate plenty of debate about Zionism and even harrassment, but Zionism is their cash cow like other war movements and they won't ever just simply abandon it

You have to stop this milk at the source of its honey and that wont be through the media it will be through the breakup of media "censorship"

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