The well thought out solution to global madness

[RANGER]

David Duke will never get anywhere. No matter what he says he is a White Supremacist and even though what he says about Jews in America is mostly correct, he alienates many people, the Gentile non-whites who could be potential allies. America will never go back to those days when it was a segregated country and Blacks did not have civil rights.

'could be potential allies'. When things get rough and people are wondering who to trust, the bottom line will be, 'The enemy of my enemy is my friend'. ~arab proverb

Furthermore, he is making the same mistake that Hitler did in lumping all Jews together. He hates the neocon Jews, the capitalists (mostly), and he also hates the communist atheist Jews, the "Bolsheviks".

What's wrong with this??

Just like Hitler hated the Communists. It is hard to say who he hated more, the Communists or the Jews. He probably thought Communists were a Jewish organization so in his mind they were one and the same to him.

Communism is a tool of the rothschild banking cabal in order to gain money, power and goy deaths and was top heavy with jews

That is the reason why Russia is relatively free of jewish influence now, especially when compared to the USA.

Got documentation for this??

This is the common characteristic of many WNs. The majority of them are as much against communism as they are against other non-white races.
The racialist nature of their philosophy is much emphasized in the media, but their anti-communism is not, and so it is not as well-recognized. Their anti-communism can be almost fanatical. They do not understand as Ry correctly points out that their current situation (jewish domination of society) has been brought about by their slavish devotion to free-market capitalism. In that economic system, the tribalistic and mafioso-like jews will always come out on top. Which means the Whites will come second or worse to them.

I think that the WN main focus is on separation from the colored races. To be free, live free, crime free, to cause no harm to any one and to insure that their race their culture is preserved for their posterty's sake and from the unlawful interferences of bureaucracy. Capitalism and Communism are two sides of the same coin, BOTH intent on overthrow of the host nation seizing power, money, control, again, rothschild tools.

That is why communist Russia survived the war and Germany lost the war. Russia by accident or design managed to overthrow Jewish power in their country by attacking the very source of jewish power - the identification of the jews as members of a separate nation of people to the host nation, united in their efforts to overthrow the people of the host nation.

Two sides of the same coin, win-win for the globalists, all by design.

The Russians acheived that by adopting communism which in effect mandated atheism in their constitution. So the Russians were able to destroy the power of the greatest threat to their revolution - the jewish nation. And many Jews took up the cause of communism enthusiastically. They gave up the tribalism of Judaism and replaced it with the new 'religion' of communism. And in so doing, they renounced their "jewishness". They were no members of the jewish nation. Who do you think the Rosenbergs spied for and lost their lives for in giving nuclear secrets to the Soviets? Was it for the jewish nation? No, it was for the communists, for the cause of communism (international communism). Many financiers who mistakenly thought that communism was a jewish movement and did not realize it was atheist even gave money to the communists during WWII and earlier, and this money helped the communists defeat their enemies.

Perhaps the rosenbergs did it in order to strenghten the next boogie man during the made up cold war. More MIC arms race, more money for the talmudic jews

We as rebels against the established order can learn lessons from that. We should not make the mistake that Hitler did in not understanding the true nature of communism, that it was an atheist movement, and because of this and because it was anti-capitalist, it was very effective in dismantling the power and influence of the jewish nation in Soviet Russia.

Hitler worked either knowingly or not for the talmudic jew r-c banker cabal, he may have been just a useful idiot.

[Ry]

Furthermore, he is making the same mistake that Hitler did in lumping all Jews together. He hates the neocon Jews, the capitalists (mostly), and he also hates the communist atheist Jews, the "Bolsheviks".

You cannot be Atheist and Jewish at the same time. A real Atheist would not acknowledge the bullshit concept of race/ethnicity invented by the Jewish faith. Futhermore Communist are not Atheist! One guy the founder Marx was an atheist and he was talking about the process of history and how one day people would reach a point where they were atheist and rational and shared resourced administered by a central state for the benefit of the people. That is Marxist communism. What we got instead is state-capitalism full of religious nuts who allocate state contracts stealing the people's wealth in order to create artificial monopolies for the benefit of the few. Yeh the Russians took land and wealth away from Churches. So what? Churches are buildings, they are businesses. They did not use that land and money they took to benefit the people they used it to benefit the communist party which was mainly a bunch of Jews and Eastern Orthodox Christians in Russia and a variety Polytheistic cult followers in China. And in Cuba they are Catholics through and through.

You can not skip a stage. You want to know who had functional communism? A few Native Americans of the hunter band variety like the Apache and also the sedintary Pueblos who were probably forced into cooperation because of the random and disproportionate rainfall created a need in each area to collect and share water with their surroundings and each season would be different for each area, they were all codependent on one another.


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They do not understand as Ry correctly points out that their current situation (jewish domination of society) has been brought about by their slavish devotion to free-market capitalism

We do not have free market capitalism in the US or anywhere in the world. We have non-atheist communism where huge multi billion dollar tax free churches can bolsster the stocks of their choice and where politicians purposely give the hand of the state to select companies that they have invested in who also own the press through holding companies and rep on all the boards of directers who also sit on the same BODs of banks.

Russia fell on its face. The one thing to come from a jolt of Atheism in Russia was their space program and advances in Science. Russia was taken over by 7 Jewish Oligarches 2 of which Putin had gotten rid of, they were never atheist and never communist. Communism can not exist because it goes against the nature of irrational people. You can not force people to be atheist or to think for themselves.

The lababling of certain countries as godless came from the US in order to get the sheep to follow in the pointless fighting. Many Catholic countries in Central and South America want to be communist or have attempted it. It has zero. zilch, nothing to do with religion. That is Propaganda.

You want to know what country has the largest number of atheists in the world? Japan. And give their size and little resource and powerful neighbors I would say they are doing pretty damn well. They are the most advanced or second to the most advanced in every singal science and they have the longest life expectancy, the most educated peole on earth the second largest economy the strongest military of any non-nuclear power, and are leading the world in hybrid car technology and most of the sources of alternative energy.


David Duke is a diservice to us all. There is no difference between white races and Jewish racists aside from the race they choose and the BS they use to back up their claims be it religion or social dawinism. A racist is a racist. David Duke is just smart enough to read what other people write and pick out the parts he wants to use to bash on Jews or non-whites.

[debus]

That is the reason why Russia is relatively free of jewish influence now, especially when compared to the USA.

Got documentation for this??

Yes, the fact that the USA is fighting two wars in the ME for Israel, and Russia isn't.

[visionthing]

You cannot be Atheist and Jewish at the same time. A real Atheist would not acknowledge the bullshit concept of race/ethnicity invented by the Jewish faith. Futhermore Communist are not Atheist! One guy the founder Marx was an atheist and he was talking about the process of history and how one day people would reach a point where they were atheist and rational and shared resourced administered by a central state for the benefit of the people. That is Marxist communism. What we got instead is state-capitalism full of religious nuts who allocate state contracts stealing the people's wealth in order to create artificial monopolies for the benefit of the few.

Edit: You can indeed call yourself ethnically Jewish and religiously atheist.

Further lots of nasty folks were atheists -- atheism isn't a guarantee of ethical conduct.

Stalin is still considered to be an atheist by the historians writing in all the journals that I read. If you can find me a peer-reviewed history journal where Stalin is called something other than an atheist, please post or PM or email me with the title and volume number.

Most atheists I've met have been just as intolerant about their axioms as Christians, or Muslims, or anyone.

Call it religion or philosophy or ideology, if it can be used to justify a claim, it has axioms. Atheists have axioms just like Christians.

You can try to find the truth about nature by scientific investigation. It's not unambiguous and the answers don't always come up in favor of materialist philosophy.

[Ry]

Stalin was Jewish and then later a communist and communism is a religion.

Communism was a comprehensive, all-embracing religion and not simply a political party, political system or philosophy. This fact is illustrated by the numerous ways in which Communism embraced and attemped to promulgate peculiar quasi-religious (and often clearly anti-scientific) beliefs which had nothing all to do with politics or government. Although Communism typically touted itself as anti-religious and pro-science, it was, in fact, deeply anti-scientific and clearly a religion. One of Communism's hallmarks in the Soviet Union and China was its aggressive and violent suppression of other religions. Communism was "anti-religious" only in the sense that it forcibly suppressed all religions other than itself. From: Colin MacCabe, Godard: A Portrait of the Artist at Seventy, Farrar, Straus and Giroux: New York (2003), page 398:
It is this dual allegiance to the philosophy of science and the Communist Party which explains Althusser's lack of publications in the fifties. In the late forties a Soviet, Lyssenko, challenged Darwinism by arguing for the inheritance of acquired characteristics. Stalin backed the fraudulent scientist and argued for a distinction between proletarian and bourgeois science so that science itself became a function of the class struggle. Communist philosophers and scientists were pressured to back both Lyssenko and the philosophical distinction in a campaign whcih effectively severed any serious links between scientists and the Communist movement. .

[debus]

You cannot be Atheist and Jewish at the same time. A real Atheist would not acknowledge the bullshit concept of race/ethnicity invented by the Jewish faith. Futhermore Communist are not Atheist! One guy the founder Marx was an atheist and he was talking about the process of history and how one day people would reach a point where they were atheist and rational and shared resourced administered by a central state for the benefit of the people. That is Marxist communism. What we got instead is state-capitalism full of religious nuts who allocate state contracts stealing the people's wealth in order to create artificial monopolies for the benefit of the few.

Edit: You can indeed call yourself ethnically Jewish and religiously atheist.

Further lots of nasty folks were atheists -- atheism isn't a guarantee of ethical conduct.

I never said it was. I said the Communist Jews didn't behave like normal members of the Jewish Mafia Network.

Stalin is still considered to be an atheist by the historians writing in all the journals that I read. If you can find me a peer-reviewed history journal where Stalin is called something other than an atheist, please post or PM or email me with the title and volume number.

Communism was supposed to be atheist: see the Karl Marx's book "the Communist Manfiesto" and Russia was after the Bolshevik Revolution. After Stalin took over, he allowed the Orthodox Church to operate again, but this was the only church he allowed.

Most atheists I've met have been just as intolerant about their axioms as Christians, or Muslims, or anyone.

I don't know; atheists don't have a faith, so they don't have to defend anything irrational.

Call it religion or philosophy or ideology, if it can be used to justify a claim, it has axioms. Atheists have axioms just like Christians.

Never said atheists don't have their own philosophy about how to live. But they are individuals, not followers of an organized religion or even organized atheism.

The good thing about atheists is that they don't believe in something unprovable, and don't suspend their sense of credulity to get railroaded into believing something that doesn't even exist.

You can try to find the truth about nature by scientific investigation. It's not unambiguous and the answers don't always come up in favor of materialist philosophy.

Maybe not but the more science investigates nature, the more it seems all the major religions of the world are bogus man-made affairs.

[debus]

There is no evidence Stalin is jewish. His father was a bootmaker and the family were very poor. His mother wanted him to become a priest. He did go to a seminary for a while but then was expelled because of dissident activities. He was a very intelligent guy and a Jewish neighbor gave him books to read when he was a kid. Some of his poems became very famous before he became leader of the USSR. Stalin could be a crypto-Jew and his mother might have wanted him to become a Christian even though he had jewish blood (we just don't know). He was a nationalist and he removed many Jews from power once he took over the leadership of the nation. In fact, many people say he became very paranoid about the Jews. He sent many to Siberia and purged his party of many Jews although funnily enough there were many jews remaining in leadership positions when he died. It is suspected he was poisoned by a group of Jewish doctors. He accused this group of trying to poison him but before he could execute, he died - two months after the accusations came out.

Both his wives were Jewish; his daughter who defected to the US, married a jew.

Most Russians don't consider him a Jew. They rather idolize him in Russia even after the fall of communism. When he died, millions of people went to Moscow to pay homage. Many people felt very lost when Stalin died.

Marx was born a jew; one of his grandfathers was a rabbi, but his father had him baptized as a Christian. Marx's father himself converted, as a pragmatic measure as he was a lawyer and only Christians were allowed to practise the law. Anyway, Marx grew up in relatively an atheist household and he even attended a Christian school - it offerred a good curriculum.

Marx was not really part of the Jewish criminal Network; if he was he wouldn't have come up with Communism as most Jews are capitalist, and the Jewish criminal Network thrives in capitalist countries. [/i]

[visionthing]

Further lots of nasty folks were atheists -- atheism isn't a guarantee of ethical conduct.

I never said it was.

I wasn't directing that at debus, I was disagreeing with Ry.

Most atheists I've met have been just as intolerant about their axioms as Christians, or Muslims, or anyone.

I don't know; atheists don't have a faith, so they don't have to defend anything irrational.

Call it religion or philosophy or ideology, if it can be used to justify a claim, it has axioms. Atheists have axioms just like Christians.

Never said atheists don't have their own philosophy about how to live. But they are individuals, not followers of an organized religion or even organized atheism.

The good thing about atheists is that they don't believe in something unprovable, and don't suspend their sense of credulity to get railroaded into believing something that doesn't even exist.

You can try to find the truth about nature by scientific investigation. It's not unambiguous and the answers don't always come up in favor of materialist philosophy.

Maybe not but the more science investigates nature, the more it seems all the major religions of the world are bogus man-made affairs.

Well, I am not exactly a distinguished scientist, nor am I a distinguished philosopher of science, but if this were a BBS dedicated to science, I would start quoting W.V.O.Quine and T.S.Kuhn about now.

But really, no matter how eloquently I argue philosophy of science here, it's not going to get me a conference paper, or a peer-reviewed article, so I'll save my philosophy for the philosophy journals. I highly recommend it as a field of study, but it would take a lot of resources to get a discussion on track and find common ground for debate.

Probably those resources would be more appropriately spent talking about the main topics of this board -- i.e. politics and current events.

[sangre_de_soldado]

Stalin was Jewish and then later a communist and communism is a religion.

Communism was a comprehensive, all-embracing religion and not simply a political party, political system or philosophy. This fact is illustrated by the numerous ways in which Communism embraced and attemped to promulgate peculiar quasi-religious (and often clearly anti-scientific) beliefs which had nothing all to do with politics or government. Although Communism typically touted itself as anti-religious and pro-science, it was, in fact, deeply anti-scientific and clearly a religion. One of Communism's hallmarks in the Soviet Union and China was its aggressive and violent suppression of other religions. Communism was "anti-religious" only in the sense that it forcibly suppressed all religions other than itself. From: Colin MacCabe, Godard: A Portrait of the Artist at Seventy, Farrar, Straus and Giroux: New York (2003), page 398:
It is this dual allegiance to the philosophy of science and the Communist Party which explains Althusser's lack of publications in the fifties. In the late forties a Soviet, Lyssenko, challenged Darwinism by arguing for the inheritance of acquired characteristics. Stalin backed the fraudulent scientist and argued for a distinction between proletarian and bourgeois science so that science itself became a function of the class struggle. Communist philosophers and scientists were pressured to back both Lyssenko and the philosophical distinction in a campaign whcih effectively severed any serious links between scientists and the Communist movement. .

Just because communism has anti-scientific ideas within it's constitution doesn't mean it's a religion. This argument is weak because all it does is state that because communism is not progressive it somehow must be a religion. Besides when it was first developed by Karl Marx it was meant to be Athiest anyway (as stated earlier in this thread).