Petraeus: Koran burning plan will endanger US troops

Current events, politics, and more.
User avatar
RonPizzle
End the occupationS. Yes, all of them.
End the occupationS. Yes, all of them.
Posts: 328
Joined: Sat Jan 05, 2008 3:09 am
Contact:

Re: Petraeus: Koran burning plan will endanger US troops

Post by RonPizzle » Sat Sep 11, 2010 9:57 am

Xed wrote: by the way you are not obviously an advocate for peace.
How am I not? I follow the non-aggression principle. And I don't bend over backwards to people who are clearly going against it.
"Freedom is something that dies unless it's used." -HST

Xed
Smashing neocons
Smashing neocons
Posts: 1782
Joined: Tue Feb 06, 2007 11:19 am
Location: UK

Re: Petraeus: Koran burning plan will endanger US troops

Post by Xed » Sat Sep 11, 2010 12:36 pm

RonPizzle wrote:
Xed wrote: by the way you are not obviously an advocate for peace.
How am I not? I follow the non-aggression principle. And I don't bend over backwards to people who are clearly going against it.
look at what you are saying my friend..

"This shit is hilarious. Fuck all religions and its practitioners, especially Islam. Fuck Allah."

How is that statement peaceful?

In terms of Islam alone Its aggressive towards 1.6 billion people, i don't think you realize or understand that the your language is pretty poor in trying to get your point across especially when basically your stating that you hate 1.6 billion people for having a particular ideology that you don't adhere too. It also just so happens that that particular group of people is in a state of war and oppression thanks to occupation of us forces and others.

No Islamic country is occupying the US or or any European countries?

Has Islam attempted to spread Sharia law by dropping bombs and occupying land in any non Muslim countries?

Has any ideological Islamic leader used nuclear weapons or any chemical and biological weapons?

Was it Islam messed up the the European economies or the us economy?

who has caused a cancer rate in in Fallujah that is worse than Hiroshima or Nagasaki? Was it an Islamic ideology?
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php? ... &aid=20241

So then you will want to talk about human rights like a quasi intellectual preaching democracy, democracy, western way of life, western values, western dress code, western culture, anything that's not Islamic as if the people of those Islamic countries cannot think for themselves or speak even for themselves..,NO not today!

Islamic countries need real intellectuals who know their own societies, who's can decide a progressive future, learned in their own history and who can choose and speak for himself.

We don't need quasi-intellectuals who talk about our religion, our culture our nations and are quick to condemn it with poorly written words for their own personal satisfaction and interests.

We don't need military intervention either or media propaganda to demonize our culture and customs in order to create more anxiety, extremism , suffering in order to give ammunition to create people like yourself in countries where you pay tax's for wars sitting there saying "we aren't angels, but at least we feel remorse" what a statement!!! All in defense of liberal western democracy! Brilliant!

p.s

I'm not saying everyone in the west even myself advocates liberal western democracy!
When false religion is established, when all avenues of protest are closed, when potential revolutionaries are bribed, coopted or killed, then Hussein's model teaches man to be a martyr, and by his death witness to the truth and shake the evil empire:

"It is an invitation to all ages and generations that if you cannot kill, die".

- Ali Shariati

Omega Pi
Fights PNAC daily
Fights PNAC daily
Posts: 573
Joined: Sun Feb 25, 2007 3:59 pm

Re: Petraeus: Koran burning plan will endanger US troops

Post by Omega Pi » Sat Sep 11, 2010 3:17 pm

I’m not getting annoyed over what clearly is distraction media. I’ve always been infuriated by the millions of lives lost and millions of lives made almost unbearable then destruction of objects. Besides, do they expect me to forget the number of mosques and qurans destroyed by the invasions of Palestine, Iraq, and Afghanistan? Way more then this guy planned to burned (he called it off for now). I think Ed hit the nail on the head. It’s not the burning pissing people off it’s the wars, policies, support for asshole leaders, plus the idea the public loves it with the burning. Most corporate media around the world prey on the uneducated.

And just to add to the idea its distraction media, the city of Gainesville is a city that loves the idea of diversity. They are almost prideful on the idea of being tolerant. (I live here during the college semesters) It’s this one church out of 60+ churches that wanted to do it along side 25 interfaith events and a counter-protest. Much of the condemning has been from other Gainesville Christians. And yes, pretty much all atheists here (Gville) are annoyed by their abrasive stupidity. The city itself has tried using the safety code laws, loan on land, and talks to persuade him not to do it. In other words, the city has been misrepresented to play into this MSM game.

BTW, I’d don’t care much if Dove shows its true colors because they do have freedom of speech in this nation (although I view the idea of the burning as pretty fudged up). But realize after viewing countless videos of police beating protesters across the country for their dissent, don't really feel inclined to defend their right to be bigots. And local government has only stepped up to protect them so I don’t think anyone is losing freedom of speech of doing stupid shit from this event.

And I have no doubt that protests in the Middle East are also misrepresented with the dissent against the wars heavily downplayed. After all, the MSM doesn’t want us to think imperialism is the primary source of hatred. Regardless, rises in visible bigotry have always pissed off peoples to great extent. You know as a kid I would watch these cartoons where there was a tower of heavy junk stacked up really high and all it takes is a feather landing on it to bring it all down. And by my personal and academic observations, the modern bully’s main form of harassment is provocation.

While in the category of distraction media, it definitely feels like it has the added purpose of stirring up emotions while bringing up the illusion that America (government and policies) is truly tolerant. Not much mention of the canceled holiday celebrations, vandalism, and bigotry going on across the country unless it’s coupled with images of angry protests overseas. I mean even hardcore Zionists have condemned it, what an act... (maybe General Pussy is condemning it because he is finding out why Afghanistan is nicknamed the “graveyard of empires”)

PS: I still check this site a lot but never bother logging in :p

User avatar
Ry
Super Anti-Neocon
Super Anti-Neocon
Posts: 34478
Joined: Mon Jun 27, 2005 12:03 pm
Location: Japan
Contact:

Re: Petraeus: Koran burning plan will endanger US troops

Post by Ry » Sat Sep 11, 2010 8:30 pm

I would just ignore the attention whore in Florida and the whole book burning thing is silly. People have the right to burn books. I am not saying you should want to, but people have the right to, they also have to expect the reaction that is going to happen when they burn a religious book, you are pissing off almost a billion people. THINK before you act.

If you really dont like a religion then dont join it. I dont even have a qurran or bible to burn, they are not even worth buying to me. I feel no need to do something just to make people mad. Burning a book is not an argument its just a creative way to say I hate you.

This whole distraction media thing about the mosque has done one thing, it has lifted the thin veil hiding the overy bigotry and hate in this country by other religious groups mainly well almost solely Jews and Christians. 911 was a spring board for increased prejudice to Islam by those who were already bigots to begin with, because bigotry is inherent in all three religions. They all claim with great importance that THEIR god is the only god and the rest are false. here in lies the problem and it will never be resolved rationaly since its already starts with an irrational precept. You can't prove which imaginary friend is real when none of them are.
Get The Empire Unmasked here

User avatar
adamo
Anti-Neocon novice
Anti-Neocon novice
Posts: 39
Joined: Tue May 18, 2010 9:15 pm

Re: Petraeus: Koran burning plan will endanger US troops

Post by adamo » Sat Sep 11, 2010 8:44 pm

Ry wrote:I would just ignore the attention whore in Florida and the whole book burning thing is silly. People have the right to burn books. I am not saying you should want to, but people have the right to, they also have to expect the reaction that is going to happen when they burn a religious book, you are pissing off almost a billion people. THINK before you act.

If you really dont like a religion then dont join it. I dont even have a qurran or bible to burn, they are not even worth buying to me. I feel no need to do something just to make people mad. Burning a book is not an argument its just a creative way to say I hate you.
Thank you!

Ronpizzle, if you really give a shit about anything and want to make a difference, you're going to have to learn to work with people you disagree with.

Post Reply