Jon Stewart is a sellout

[stewie]

TV is worthless for anything political. It's all propaganda.

They have a political show up here in Ontario called "The Agenda". They know the sheep are so soundly asleep that they can call it that without a problem. If my memory serves me right they had a show on about the middle east and most of the people on the show were jews, and I bet they were zionists to boot, I didn't hang around long enough to find out because I can't stand how they mangle and obscure the truth on these shows. All I know is Canada's media is zionist owned also, so the chances that these jews were unbiased was virtually nil.

[exquisite]

IMO stewart is a well intentioned guy, people that work for the MSM cannot tell the whole truth without getting fired, i reckon he's the type of guy that tells as much truth as he can without the risk of getting the sack, rense said he did that too when he worked for the MSM. And FOX's carl cameron is clearly like that too.

TV is worthless for anything political. It's all propaganda.

you can get some decent info from PressTV and Al-Jazeera english, however neither of them are perfect.

[stewie]

I see people are defending Jon Stewart in a round about way but it doesn't wash with me. People like him are bringing about tyranny in our country just as surely as the banksters, politicians, warmongers, etc., and are complicit in evil. And so are people who refuse to hold them accountable.

[Irie Dave]

IMO stewart is a well intentioned guy, people that work for the MSM cannot tell the whole truth without getting fired, i reckon he's the type of guy that tells as much truth as he can without the risk of getting the sack, rense said he did that too when he worked for the MSM. And FOX's carl cameron is clearly like that too.

TV is worthless for anything political. It's all propaganda.

you can get some decent info from PressTV and Al-Jazeera english, however neither of them are perfect.

Those are decent but I don't get either on my local digital cable.

[VerySad]

Jon Stewart is a comedian disguising truth in his jokes. Since he enjoys such a huge publicity he simply can not come out with the facts without repacking them.

Imo he is making the best out of the narrow margin in which he is allowed to walk in.

I doubt anyone else can repackage the truth better then he can, then even sell it and still get away with it.

I rather prefer a Jon Stewart then no Jon Stewart.

[Strange Boy]

May 11, 2009

On Satirist Apologies
Jon Stewart and Truman, the War Criminal
By PAUL KRASSNER

In a recent blog on Huffington Post, Dennis Perrin criticized Jon Stewart for apologizing the day after he agreed with a guest that President Harry Truman was a war criminal. He wrote that “Stewart did what well-regarded mainstream entertainers do when expressing an unpopular opinion. He groveled for forgiveness….When an American ‘satirist’ apologizes for stating the truth, you can really appreciate ‘free expression’ in a corporate-owned culture.” Since Perrin stated that, “before The Daily Show, Stewart was not known in a Paul Krassner/Barry Crimmins/Whitney Brown way,” I feel especially compelled to disagree with his premise.

As a performer, I was a bundle of paradoxes. I was a hermit, yet I would go out to do shows and talk to a hundred people at once. I was a social critic, yet my spiritual path was trying not to judge others. Irreverence was my only sacred cow, yet I tried not to let victims become the target of my humor. So, there was one particular routine that I stopped using in 1970, when abortion was still illegal and I ran an underground referral service. It called for a “rape-in” of legislators’ wives in order to impregnate them so that they would then convince their husbands to decriminalize abortion. But feminist friends objected.

I resisted at first, because it was such a well-intentioned joke. But I reconsidered. Even in a joke, why should women be assaulted because men make the laws? Legislators’ wives were the victims in that joke, but the legislators themselves should have been the target. For me to cease doing that bit of comedy wasn’t self-censorship, it was conscious evolution. I publicly apologized, in print and on the air. Of course, if you think I was merely kowtowing to political correctness, I hereby grovel for your forgiveness.

Perrin admitted that his take on The Daily Show was “a tad personal,” because they had once rejected material he submitted because it was “too dark.” Actually, I had a similar experience with Dennis Miller. He had called to invite me to submit material—several jokes and a rant—when he hosted his own TV series. This was when he mistook spouting obscure references for being hip, but before he became such a political reactionary. He never let me know his decision. After a few weeks, I wrote and asked him, but he didn’t have the courtesy to respond. I learned from a staff writer that Miller considered my material “too radical.” However, I did read it on the radio one Sunday morning when Harry Shearer invited me to substitute for him on Le Show.

I also feel compelled to disagree with Jon Stewart. I think that Harry Truman was indeed a war criminal. Actually, I believe that in most wars, both sides harbor top-level war criminals, but that the victor determines who they are. As Lenny Bruce said in 1962 at the Gate of Horn in Chicago, “If we would have lost the war, they would have strung Truman up by the balls….” Lenny was arrested for obscenity that night. One of the items in the police report complained: “When talking about the war he stated, ‘If we would have lost the war, they would have strung Truman up by the balls.’”

Paul Krassner edited Pot Stories For Soul, available at paulkrassner.com.

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[Irie Dave]

Jon Stewart is a comedian disguising truth in his jokes. Since he enjoys such a huge publicity he simply can not come out with the facts without repacking them.

Imo he is making the best out of the narrow margin in which he is allowed to walk in.

I doubt anyone else can repackage the truth better then he can, then even sell it and still get away with it.

I rather prefer a Jon Stewart then no Jon Stewart.

Yeah maybe you're right. The beginning monologues are good, I mainly just don't like how they often interview bad guys at the end of the show and present them as credible for the most part.

[stewie]

I mainly just don't like how they often interview bad guys at the end of the show and present them as credible for the most part.

As opposed to the shows reputation for skewering politicians and speaking truth to power (90% of them republican), the part where he talks to the crooks in charge proves that the show is not about speaking truth to power, but about selling out your principles and allowing evil people to say whatever they want and get away with it. That's exactly not what we should be teaching young people.

[stewie]

I rather prefer a Jon Stewart then no Jon Stewart.

I rather prefer a Jon Stewart that is honest to one who is dishonest.

[Ry]

I'm sure he knows a lot of what is going on. It's his job. Given that Obama is doing virtually everything Bush did and more, it is hypocritical to not slam Obama and the democrats just as bad as he did Bush and the republicans.

I actually agree with Stewie for once.

Jon is nearly blind to the same crime done by Democrats that were done by Republicans. Back when Kerry ran he did the same thing. He could have been an important voice for the anti-war movement. The leftest watch his show as if it was the news. If would be so easy for him to point out the hypocrisy of Obama then and only then would some on the left be able to recognize it. It has to be on TV and it has to be said by one of their own for them to come to terms with it.

It's kind of funny how Raimondo wrote this article when it was he who turned on all of us going over to the dark side and "cheering" for Obama to win like it would make a difference. Then he came back to the light side.